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Would gunsmithing be a good second job?

 
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Old 03-24-2013, 08:34 AM
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Re: Would gunsmithing be a good second job?

I would have to say, It is a great hobby but a terrible job.

As a hobby, you can work when you want/feel like it and take your time to do the very best work
at the lowest price possible.

As a job, making money is the main objective and in some cases quality sufferers,discount parts are
used and customers are not always the priority.

Of corse there are exceptions and some Gun smiths are able to keep quality up and cost reasonable.

Schedules are the main problem when doing smithing as a buisness,

Tools are a big expense no matter whether it is a job or hobby.

I would recommend trying to find a part time job in a gunshop and trying the work first and letting the
business Handel the problems and cost.

Learn the craft first and then decided whether you want to buy the equipment and go out on your own.

Sounds cynical, but its just my opinion.

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Old 03-24-2013, 08:35 AM
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Re: Would gunsmithing be a good second job?

I've seen it mentioned twice, now. A "07 Manufactures License" for gunsmithing? Since when? A new ruling I'm unaware of? I attended an ATFE "training and informational seminar" about a year ago. Much discussion about the differences between gunsmithing and manufacturing. I've seen nothing about this in the 'news letter'. Please provide a link to this 'ruling' on the ATFE web site, so I can see it. A 'second job' with a range, commercial reloading, and a gunsmith would get to where 'custom golf club building' went,,,,,,, to a full time job,,and much deeper into the need for liablity, thus adding to overhead costs. Much deeper in regulations, also.
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Old 03-24-2013, 10:07 AM
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Re: Would gunsmithing be a good second job?

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I've seen it mentioned twice, now. A "07 Manufactures License" for gunsmithing? Since when? A new ruling I'm unaware of? I attended an ATFE "training and informational seminar" about a year ago. Much discussion about the differences between gunsmithing and manufacturing. I've seen nothing about this in the 'news letter'. Please provide a link to this 'ruling' on the ATFE web site, so I can see it. A 'second job' with a range, commercial reloading, and a gunsmith would get to where 'custom golf club building' went,,,,,,, to a full time job,,and much deeper into the need for liablity, thus adding to overhead costs. Much deeper in regulations, also.
You may be correct on the exact requirements, but this is from ATF Pub 5300.4

(I1) Is a license needed to engage
in the business of engraving, customizing,
refinishing or repairing
firearms?
Yes. A person conducting such activities
as a business is considered to
be a gunsmith within the definition of
a dealer. See Item 16, “Federal Excise
Tax” in the General Information
section of this publication.
[27 CFR 478.11]

Then you have the other requirements of taking transfers of guns. Not such a big deal if the owner stays with the gun.
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Old 03-24-2013, 11:11 AM
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Re: Would gunsmithing be a good second job?

I went to the ATFE site myself, and found no 'new' rulings. Read, in its entirety, ATF Ruling 2010-10. Then, if there are questions, contact ATFE to determine which license is needed for what activity. Your post doesn't define which license is needed, Dealers or Manufactures, just that you need to be "licensed". I am reasonably familiar with the 07 Manufactures License as it is the one I operate under. I build custom rifles and offer them for sale to the general public. At one time I did operate under a Dealers License, as I only built using customer suppied receivers. The OP probably isn't thinking about this end of the business anyway. He's probably thinking about repairs and modifications to a customers gun.
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Old 03-24-2013, 11:45 AM
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Re: Would gunsmithing be a good second job?

I am not claiming to be an expert on this, and I really don't think anyone wants to take that responsibility, but the BEST thing to do is contact the batf and get some sort of determination from them.

What I posted was copied from the atf reg book, and you are correct, it really doesn't spell out exactly 'what' license you need, only that you need one. Sounds pretty typical of government regulations to me.

The fact it spells out refinishing and repairing firearms would fall right in line with the OP.
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Old 03-24-2013, 01:34 PM
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Re: Would gunsmithing be a good second job?

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I am not claiming to be an expert on this, and I really don't think anyone wants to take that responsibility, but the BEST thing to do is contact the batf and get some sort of determination from them.

What I posted was copied from the atf reg book, and you are correct, it really doesn't spell out exactly 'what' license you need, only that you need one. Sounds pretty typical of government regulations to me.

The fact it spells out refinishing and repairing firearms would fall right in line with the OP.
The Rulings define the Regulations. Contact BATFE for the particulars, and then you might have to pry the info from them. I gotta' raise the BS flag, though, when someone says ya' gotta' have a Maunfactures License to gunsmith. There's enough misinformation floating around the net, as it is.
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Old 03-24-2013, 01:50 PM
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Re: Would gunsmithing be a good second job?

No One says you must start with a full blown shop and 50k in tools.
Perhaps trigger work, stock modification, scope mounting...pick jobs that suit your abilities from an extra room and grow the business.
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