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Old 11-10-2013, 01:55 PM
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Re: What can I expect to pay?

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Not even a little bit. Beware of the budget priced ones. I also would strongly urge you to avoid prefit or prechambered barrels. The barrel makers are better at making barrels than taking the time it takes to fit one to the level of precision available today.
So are you recommending buying a blank and having a gunsmith thread and chamber it?
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Old 11-10-2013, 02:14 PM
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Re: What can I expect to pay?

I believe it's the best way. Buying a prefit is right there with buying take offs. Nothing custom about it. The benefit is getting the threads precision fitted to your particular action, a chamber and crown dialed into the path of the barrel rather than off the ends.
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Old 11-10-2013, 02:28 PM
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Re: What can I expect to pay?

Recommendations for a competent gunsmith?
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Old 11-10-2013, 02:54 PM
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Re: What can I expect to pay?

For something like this if I were you I would be looking for an accuracy specialist.
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Old 11-10-2013, 06:18 PM
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Re: What can I expect to pay?

This is flat out nonsense. Shilen makes an excellent barrel and I have more faith in all the machining being done in 1 house than having several people involved in different aspects of the job.

Perhaps the very cheapest prefits, like the ones from ER Shaw are the ones that Hired Gun is referring to. (to avoid) I have tried Mc Gowan, but since they could not deliver a barrel in 6 months which was promised in 4 weeks and were evasive when contacted, I cannot recommend them.

The fact that some barrel makers like Lilja and Brux do not produce prefit barrels, by no means serve to justify a claim that a prefit barrel is in any way inferior. It is merely a fact that those makers have more than enough demand for blanks (which they sell at the price of a Shilen prefit) and they have decided to focus on their core processes (blank making & hand lapping) instead of adding the peripheral processes needed to produce turnkey barrels.

One of the big issues in the industry is the popularity of the Remington 700 and the fact that smiths that accurize the receivers do not adhere to a standard protocol (since in fact the smiths remove only enough material to clean up features). So as a result, the dimensions of accurized Remington receivers are scattered all over the place, and to accomplish a good barrel fit on those receivers requires every barrel tennon to be cut for the individual rifle. Savage does not suffer from the same malady.

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Not even a little bit. Beware of the budget priced ones. I also would strongly urge you to avoid prefit or prechambered barrels. The barrel makers are better at making barrels than taking the time it takes to fit one to the level of precision available today.
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Old 11-10-2013, 09:32 PM
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Re: What can I expect to pay?

I am against prefit barrels on bolt action rifles for the sole reason is they can't get the chambers and threads straight. This also applies to most of the mass produced factory chambered rifles. To cut one straight with the bore takes a lot of time and that means added expense. To sell these prefit barrels at the price they do they have a laborer loading blanks into a cnc and pushing the start button. Total time to prefit a barrel is about 10 minutes max. Another reason they cannot chamber or thread one aligned to the bore is one fitted that way must be timed into the action or they have a 345 in 360 chance of getting the barrel pointed into the side of the barrel channel.

A regular gunsmith uses this stuff to service and repair rifles all the time. Someone that seeks me is looking for custom precision so I can never recommend a production run fitted barrel. If you were nearby I would be happy to show you the differences in person .
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Old 11-11-2013, 06:44 PM
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Re: What can I expect to pay?

Gotta' agree with Hired Gun, a pre-fit is only going to take you half way. There's a reason why the 'best' are fit one at a time.
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