Originally Posted by Trickymissfit
the gist of the question was accuracey for sure, but nobody has ever proved that a barrel nut is not at least as accurate except in the factory class benchrest shoots. They are now called "the Savage Line." If you goto an F Class meet you will see lots and lots of barrel nuts, and they win on a regular basis. But there is another way to do a barrel nut that will make it even stiffer yet. The problem with the shoulder lockup is that there is no way to support the internal thread after the shoulder seats. No matter what you do the thread is gonna have .003" or more flex in it when you spike it with 60K PSI, and add a rigid bolt face that cannot stay square with the chamber centerline. Works OK, but could be a lot better.
Apparently you have been offended by my post and I am truly sorry, but the fact remains that
every Savage I have worked on has Improved dramatically, Whether it was the shoulder make
up or just the care of truing every part possible.
I am retired and have no ax to grind with Savage,and only build a few rifles a year because I
enjoy doing it.In fact Savage is one of the favorites to work on because it can be improved and the
owners are allways very happy. Some of these rifles are known shooters and the owners just
want them to shoot better. The last one was a consistant 1/4 MOA rifle and is now a 1/10 MOA.
I don't know how to measure how much flex a barrel or the connection has (You stated something
like .003) but I do know how to make it consistant and as solid as possible and the proof is in the
accuracy and the consistency.
The only brand that I have not figured out 100% of the time is the Ruger with the angled recoil
lug. Some have and I bare no malice against them just because I can't make them perform to my
standards every time,But I just don't feel comfortable guarantying 1/2 MOA on them. But I do on
Depending on the barrel length and weight I will add bedding up to 1" in front of the recoil lug
for More support and with the barrel nut you cant bed this area and all of the support that you
are supposed to get from it limited by the threaded length the rest is a sleeve to cover the
threads and offers no support.
So I will continue doing what I do until such time I find a better way to improve accuracy. It
is a judgement call and If I am accountable for the accuracy of my work I do not use the barrel
nut and if a person wants me to leave the barrel nut I will, I just won't guarantee accuracy of
1/2 MOA or less.
I hope this explains the reason I recommend doing away with the barrel nut and what I base
my opinion on. Real world experience
Again :Sorry if my opinion differs with yours. Nothing personal.
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