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Rounds will not chamber in new Savage 111 LRH .338 Lapua

 
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Old 04-13-2012, 10:08 AM
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Rounds will not chamber in new Savage 111 LRH .338 Lapua

Hopefully, you guys can let me know if I am going in the right direction with this problem or give me some additional ideas of things to have my Gunsmith try; I am at my wits end. I purchased a new Savage 111 LRH chambered in .338 Lapua and have not been able to chamber a loaded round or empty shell since purchased. The bolt works fine with an empty chamber but when loaded the bolt will only close to about the three o' clock position. I started a long detailed thread about this problem in the reloading section because originally I thought it was a resizing problem with my Lapua brass, long story short I have tried everything to no avail. I have tried both factory ammunition and resizing my Lapua brass with my shellholder set to touch the ram plus an additional 1/8 turn, 1/4 turn, 3/8 turn, and even a 1/2 turn, nothing seems to work. I have been scouring the net for answers and have come up with a few things to try: (Please add to my list of things for my Gunsmith to try or give feedback, thanks).

Apparently, Savages have common problems with either the front action screw and / or front factory scope rail screw being to long and interfering with the bolts closure.

Proper chamber headspace with a headspace gauge. (Short chambered).

Bolt assembly screw may be loose.

Bolt locking lugs may be binding and need polished.

Thanks for your time,
Brandon
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Old 04-13-2012, 03:19 PM
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Re: Rounds will not chamber in new Savage 111 LRH .338 Lapua

Have you called Savage?
What did they say?

If the bolt works fine on an empty chamber, then something is binding against your cartridge when attempting to close the bolt. (Or conversely, the cartridge is causing binding somewhere.)

Coat the cartridge in Sharpie or Dykem (layout blue).

Chamber the cartridge and work the bolt a few times so that you can identify where the Dykem is scraped away and where the pressure point(s) is/are.

If you already did so, what did it reveal?

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Re: Rounds will not chamber in new Savage 111 LRH .338 Lapua

I have a friend who just had the same issue he sent the rifle back and they said it was fine. We had factory ammo from 3 diffrent manufactures and none would chamber he ended up returning the rifle.
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Re: Rounds will not chamber in new Savage 111 LRH .338 Lapua

If a new rifle won't chamber a factory loaded round I'd send it back. I may try one other make of ammo, after that it's not your problem. The quicker you start the process the better.
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Old 04-13-2012, 11:19 PM
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Re: Rounds will not chamber in new Savage 111 LRH .338 Lapua

Scope base screws too long and protruding deep?
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Old 04-14-2012, 12:50 PM
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Re: Rounds will not chamber in new Savage 111 LRH .338 Lapua

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Scope base screws too long and protruding deep?
I've seen that one more than once! Pull the bolt, and see if you can put a loaded round in the chamber by hand. I went thru the screw issue with Leupold a year ago, and after they sent me three sets of screws; I finally gave up! One set was almost a quarter inch too long. Called Burris, and they had me a new set of bases and the correct screws in the mail that afternoon.

If the round will fit the chamber without the bolt, you pretty well know you have a good chamber (still not always). They could have head spaced the gun with a "no go" gauge.
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Old 04-14-2012, 01:06 PM
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Re: Rounds will not chamber in new Savage 111 LRH .338 Lapua

He said the bolt works fine on an empty chamber.

A new rifle shouldn't be giving problems with factory ammo.

There seem to be a lot of people commenting on "tight" chambers with this rifle. Savage has messed up in the past. They've sent out crooked chambers and barrels with no rifling for the last few inches of the barrel.

Let a gunsmith have a good look. Or, call Savage and send it back.

And, please let us know what the final resolution is.

Best of luck,
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