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Old 06-04-2012, 09:45 PM
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If you live near North Bend OR I would remove both for free. Go ahead and fire the primer. Keep it in a safe direction. The barrel needs removed. The case pulled first and then drive out the dowel with a tight fitting brass rod. If the dowel wasn't in play I would have used a brass rod.
Where is North Bend in Oregon ? I thought North Bend was in Washington .
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Old 06-04-2012, 09:57 PM
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Re: Really stuck case

Look for Coos Bay. They are side by side.
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Look for Coos Bay. They are side by side.
Ok got it . Well you learn something new every day .
I like to keep up with anything Oregon as my Mother was born in Hood River and my Grandfather is buried in Idlewild cemetary Hood River .
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Re: Really stuck case

just outa curiosity what causes a case to get stuck in the chamber?
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Old 06-05-2012, 01:15 PM
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Re: Really stuck case

Unfired stuck cases are caused by dirt or fouling in the chamber, improperly sized cases, Trying to use a case that was fired in another rifle. A sizing die is not capable of sizing all the way to the shell holder and if the case was fired in another gun with a loose chamber it may have a slight buldge or anyways end up larger than the gun you are trying to put it in and since the sizer can't get quite down far enough you may feel some resistance as the bolt closes and with the so slight taper it wedges into the gun under the pressure of the ramp on the lugs and they are way stronger than the extraction cam can pull, or the rim the extractor has to pull on.
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Unfired stuck cases are caused by dirt or fouling in the chamber, improperly sized cases, Trying to use a case that was fired in another rifle. A sizing die is not capable of sizing all the way to the shell holder and if the case was fired in another gun with a loose chamber it may have a slight buldge or anyways end up larger than the gun you are trying to put it in and since the sizer can't get quite down far enough you may feel some resistance as the bolt closes and with the so slight taper it wedges into the gun under the pressure of the ramp on the lugs and they are way stronger than the extraction cam can pull, or the rim the extractor has to pull on.
What he said + if a case is jamed in and not fired then it tends to stay there with max grip. If it can be fired it tends to hammer any garbage down , then back up onto the bolt face and has a better chance to extract than the unfired case but not always . Some gun designs have better extraction powers than others. Many shooters clean their bores well but neglect the chamber . Dirty brass going in time after time will eventually crud up the chamber .
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So...we have a big (I think) dilemma.

I have an older Ruger M77 in .243 and it has a case lodged in the chamber. I got a bunch of cases that are a lil bit too big, and tried to chamber one (stupid idea) that I had accidentally primed, but not loaded yet. It went in, but it wont come out now; the bolt will open and close all of the way, but the extractor wont grab on to the case. So we tried to pound it out with a 3/16 wooden dowel (an even worse idea), because the dowel broke off just inside the barrel with no conceivable way to get it out. Now we have a stuck case and a plugged barrel, not good.

So, question time.
1. Why is my extractor not having a death grip and just pulling it out?
2. How do I get the stuck case out?
3. How do I get the stuck dowel out?
4. How can I make the rest of the cases that are too big fit? They fit in the M70 but not in the M77.
5. Could I have (Before I fired the primer off) essentially breech loaded a fire forming load?

Thanks,
Kirby
I've had some really stuck cases in the past. I think anyone who's done much reloading has run into it at some point.

I've never had one I couldn't get out by doing the following:

Fire it if there's a live primer in it.

Leave bolt open, do not bang or hammer on it to get the case to release.

spray a little lube down the muzzle and let it sit for a bit.

Take a cleaning rod and slide it down till it bottoms out in the case.

Repeatedly just tap/bounce the cleaning rod against the case and sooner or later it will break free.

Do this with the rifle butt on the ground barrel straight up. Gravity and the weight of the bolt will work with you to help dislodge it.

If I ever ran into one I couldn't get out with this method I'd take it straight to a gunsmith and let them do what they get paid for.

No sense risking doing any damage to the rig just out of frustration.
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