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Old 09-24-2011, 04:17 PM
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If the custom is from one of the smiths that sponsor here, any of them, you can be sure that you are getting the best of the best.

I've only dealt with one smith here and him only twice. The major reason for only two is I waited too late in life to experience full appreciation of a fully custom rifle.

A 1 MOA guarantee is now pretty much impossible to accept.

I notice that Shawn seems to almost require a half moa rifle for his extreme distance shooting classes.

Kirby, Nate, Jim, Shawn , tmr, are just a few of the names to check out. There are others others. They can shoot me for not having their names on the tip of my fingers.

Of the smiths here, I'd choose, especially at my age, the one with the shortest delivery time.

My carry gun is a Remmy 700 338 RUM, tuperware stock, Holland QD brake. It is a DIY rig and looks it. Shoots with the customs though.

The two ambush rigs are both APS built. One is one of the first 270 AMs the other is a recent 375 AM. The APS rifles can share my bed. The DIY rifle stays on the floor.
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Old 09-25-2011, 11:40 AM
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Besides getting it built with the exact components you desire I believe the biggest advantage to a custom built bolt action rifle is the greater accuracy potential from better concentricity and tighter tolerances that are built in to the modern custom. Some custom gunsmiths machining tolerances are miles tighter than the larger factories can feasibly mass produce. These are the ones to seek out and use.
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Old 10-02-2011, 06:34 PM
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Besides getting it built with the exact components you desire I believe the biggest advantage to a custom built bolt action rifle is the greater accuracy potential from better concentricity and tighter tolerances that are built in to the modern custom. Some custom gunsmiths machining tolerances are miles tighter than the larger factories can feasibly mass produce. These are the ones to seek out and use.
Those in the 'know' will take a Win. 70 action made decades ago and build a rifle that shoots just as good as the modern "virtual zero tolerance" actions of today. But nowadays, this is beyond the comprehension of most folks. They've no idea nor understanding of what's been done decades ago.
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Old 10-03-2011, 08:54 AM
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Besides getting it built with the exact components you desire I believe the biggest advantage to a custom built bolt action rifle is the greater accuracy potential from better concentricity and tighter tolerances that are built in to the modern custom. Some custom gunsmiths machining tolerances are miles tighter than the larger factories can feasibly mass produce. These are the ones to seek out and use.
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With a factory rifle You can't predict it's accuracy. You may get a real shooter or not even though it
is the best of there line of rifles.

As mentioned 1 MOA of accuracy is not exceptable to most Smiths on this site, and 1/2 MOA is
the max for a properly built custom and is common. In fact 1/4 MOA is very possible but not
guaranteed by most unless the customer is willing to pay for the load develoupment that is
required for this level of accuracy.

Find a smith that leaves no stone unturned and uses only the best components and sub 1/2 MOA
can be expected.

The Smiths reputation is at stake, so listen to him and let him know what you expect and what
you would like as far as end results.

There is one more advantage to a Custom. It can be one of a kind.

J E CUSTOM
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Old 10-03-2011, 11:32 AM
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Those in the 'know' will take a Win. 70 action made decades ago and build a rifle that shoots just as good as the modern "virtual zero tolerance" actions of today. But nowadays, this is beyond the comprehension of most folks. They've no idea nor understanding of what's been done decades ago.
Bart---we will just have to agree to disagree on this one. Not much demand for the old Model 70's for doner guns when the expectation is a one hole rifle.
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Old 10-03-2011, 01:18 PM
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Bart---we will just have to agree to disagree on this one. Not much demand for the old Model 70's for doner guns when the expectation is a one hole rifle.
I think you're both right to the extent that there are many types of custom rifles including LRH, IBS, palma, mountain, switch barrel, semi-auto, safari, safe queen...

With a custom, you can have it built your way even if it sucks.

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Old 10-03-2011, 03:27 PM
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Not much demand for the old Model 70's for doner guns when the expectation is a one hole rifle.
I know two things about this comment.

First, I agree that there's not much demand for 70's. Most customers don't know what they can do. Most 'smiths who don't know nor even care what they can do, either.

Second, nobody's build a one hole rifle to date that's a one holer all the time. The best of them shoot cloverleafs at short range (300 and under), under half MOA at medium range (301 to 600 yards and under 2/3 MOA at long range (601 to 1000 yards). I'm not referring to the smallest groups they'll shoot which any one will do a small percentage of the time. Accuracy is what one can count on all the time and nobody's built a rifle that does that. Well, maybe they have if the target's no more than 50 to 60 yards down range.

However, if one shoots enough bullets in a target, there'll be one hole in the paper but its size may not impress folks.
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