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Old 07-26-2014, 07:46 PM
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Re: Misaligned Scope mounting holes

I didn't like the looks either, so spent about 3 hours last night with a small Mag light in my teeth, adjusting back and forth between the inserts, which are somewhat of a a pain for minute adjustments, and the adjustable bases. Used 3 sets of batteries in my bore laser trying to get it where it worked good enough that I figured it was as close as I could get. I would think that someone would make a bore laser that was smaller than 1" Diameter at 25 yards or at least make a green bore laser where it can be seen better in daylight. Maybe they have them, but have never seen one.

I don't like maxing out scopes, like lots of adjustment room so am somewhat of a perfectionist in trying to keep them centered. I think mainly since my eyes have been going bad, I've gotten worse about it. Anyway have reached as happy of a compromise as can be expected for now. Would still like to know how or who installed drilled and tapped the original bases. What a PIA. Rifle came without iron sights so suspect that it was factory install, as he told me, but really who knows?

Anyway, between several alternatives offered by members, I reached a happy compromise and will just have to see if it is as good as I think it is.

Thanks again to everyone.

Bruce
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Old 07-27-2014, 11:56 PM
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Re: Misaligned Scope mounting holes

An in the chamber laser may or may not reflect the curve in the barrel and that can easily be 40 MOA or more. Best bet is to shoot it.

I have several laser bore sighters and they can be seen in daylight as long as it's not real bright but they either go in the bore at the muzzle or stick to the end of the barrel with a strong magnet. They are no better than sighting through the bore with my eye.
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Old 07-28-2014, 02:21 PM
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Re: Misaligned Scope mounting holes

RE: Bore Sights: I tried the kind that stick in the Bore from Bushnell and after 3 tries I gave up on the type. If you put the bore sight in the barrel, lube the insert a little bit, remove and rotate the bore sight, you can end up with a 8" -10" diameter circle. There are a series of small Allen wrench adjustments around the perimeter of the bore sight, where supposedly you can adjust the laser, but the smallest circle I have been able to get it down to was a 1 1/4" at 15' after screwing around with it for about an hour. Even called Bushnell and they replaced several of them, but now have 2 brand new bore sights I don't trust. Would sell them cheap.

Went to a internal bore sight and went through 3 of these until I finally got one from all places, China that was actually centered. Marked each one with a Sharpie pen line on the top and then rotated it in the chamber 45 degree's and marked each spot on the target. the last one came up very good at 15' through an entire rotation. I recheck it periodically, but is still close enough to get me on paper when I don't have the time to go shoot, since the range out here isn't convenient.

Unfortunately the sun here in Tucson washes out most lasers at anything over about 20'. My 1000' commercial Rotary laser is only good for about 600' here. Noticed that most commercial lasers are going to Green.

With the problems I had even getting this thing onto paper, I'm content that I'm close enough and can use the Scope for adjustment to finalize it.

If the darn thing has a curve to the barrel going to be very surprised. the triangular barrel gives it more stiffness that most circular barrels of the same caliber, but could be mis-drilled I guess or bent at the factory, but with a bright light, there's no internal shadows, just nice concentric rings. Won't know until I shoot it in. Actually, the only reason it hasn't been shot in is that a friend with his 1/2 MOA eyes will do the shooting (I have cataracts, which are going to be removed in a couple of months) and he isn't available for a couple of weeks.

Anyway, thanks for all the input from everyone. Have meaned out the difference between the Burris inserts, the adjustable bases and the scope and am confident I can get it on the paper at least. Actually, am more optimistic than that, but I can still be surprised.

Thanks again,

Bruce

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Old 07-28-2014, 06:05 PM
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Sorry, meant "Clintons Mental Masturbation"...LOL
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Old 10-16-2014, 11:27 PM
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Re: Misaligned Scope mounting holes

All,
Been meaning to do this for a while and would come in, start reading the threads and get totally distracted and forget about updating this post. Before we took the Rifle out to shoot it in, I happened across one the Remington 700 trigger recall ads in American Rifleman Magazines and got to wondering if it had ever been checked. Went into the Remington site, plugged in the Serial Number and sure enough it was subject to the recall.

Figuring to kill two birds as long as i was going to lose the use of the rifle for a while, thought I would see what it would cost to have Remington fix it. Called Customer service, left my number and they called back in a couple of hours. Told the customer service rep what the problem with the misaligned holes, not being able to get it on paper, etc. and I gave him the serial number. When he punched it up, he paused, muttered something about a Cross indexed(?)(he didn't say threaded) barrel and (I really didn't hear him very well, so this may be completely wrong). Said something else about a manufacturing error (He didn't use error, but something like mis-manufacture) and he told me that the rifle was less than 2 years old and still under warranty, but since I wasn't the original owner, the Tech would decide on what to do with it. Also told me that it may not be repairable, but Remington would make it good, whatever that means. After he had ran the Serial number, he paused for quite a while, like he was aware that there may be a problem, then mumbled what ever it was he said about the barrel, so figured that there may have been a group of VTR's with the same problem. I never mentioned the barrel, except for the hole misalignment he did, if that means anything.

He then took my name, address, all other pertinent data and told me that UPS would be dropping by a self addressed box in the next couple days and to strip the rifle down to basics, put the rifle in the box and call UPS for pickup. Told me to write a short description of the problem and put it in with the service Order he emailed me. So far hasn't cost me a dime.

Anyway, the Rifle has gone back to Remington and while back I received a Repair Order to replace the Service Order I had previously. Been back to their automated site over the last couple of weeks and they only tell me that it is out to a service tech for repair.

Anyway, that is where it stands for now, but I do know that the Scope mounting holes were out of alignment with the receiver and now it may be that the barrel was also put in crooked or something, but will just have to wait and see. Am going to have to trust Remington to make it right.

In the meantime, been busy working on an exercise program for folks my age. Calling it "Pumping Rust".

Bruce
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Old 10-24-2014, 04:03 AM
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Re: Misaligned Scope mounting holes

Send it back to the manufacturer. That's what I would. It's their screw up. They should fix it at their expense.
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Old 10-24-2014, 05:27 AM
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Re: Misaligned Scope mounting holes

Hopefully, they'll get it fixed and back in time to you for your hunting season. Good luck!
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