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Old 02-27-2010, 10:26 PM
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Re: Mauser K98 action?

Rem 700 actions are my favorite. That being said I have M98 Mausers chambered in 25-06, 243 Winchester and 338-06 Ackley and they are all tack drivers. I feel I give up very little with the M98 compared to the M700. I am only limited to cartridge compatibilty. I could go with new commercial mausers for the magnums but they are as much as $1500+. I am down to my last surplus M98 and I am currently building a 6.5x47 Lapua for long range antelope. The aftermarket parts for the mauser is endless. Floorplates, triggers, stocks, whatever.
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Old 02-28-2010, 01:31 AM
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Re: Mauser K98 action?

My K98 vs Rem700 shpeal:
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The 98 Mauser has:
1) flat bottomed receiver to take torque from rifling
2) controlled feed
3) claw typed extractor
4) safety on firing pin, often modified to be 2 or 3 position M70 type
5) multi stage gas filter on firing pin hole for safety
6) bolt handle is integrally forged as part of bolt body
7) safety lug below rear bridge
8) integral recoil lug
9) knife ejector in bolt lug slot with force proportional to that applied to bolt handle
10 an inner C ring to put the tenon threads in compression

The rem 700 has:
1) receiver made from round tubing
2) push feed
3) little wimpy extractor
4) safety on trigger
5) simple bolt
6) bolt handle tacked on with screw and solder
7) The soldered and screwed bolt handle is in a slot in the receiver.
8) recoil lug is a modified washer that is captured by the receiver and barrel
9) round hole in bolt face for spring loaded plunger ejector
10) No inner C ring, so the only thing holding the barrel to the receiver is the tenon threads in tension.

To overcome some of these short comings, the Rem700 may be modified:
1) A flat bottomed shroud may be epoxied around the receiver for benchrest work.
3) A Sako extractor modification may be made to the bolt.
4) According to the allegations, the defendant [Remington] has known of the defect for 60 years [of Rem700 manufacture] and has more than 4,000 documented complaints of unintended discharge and has paid more than $20 million in settlements to "injured consumers."
5) Eye protection can be worn when shooting a Rem700.
6) The bolt handle can be TIG welded on the bolt body
7) An after market bolt handle can be TIG welded to the bolt body
8) The receiver and recoil lug may be drilled and pinned together.
10) The Remington factory often puts glue on the tenon threads.

The reason most often sited for dangerous game professional hunters preferring Mausers over Rem700 is the controlled feed.

Kent Reeves Won the Nationals at Camp Perry shooting a 300 Win Mag Mauser in 2006, but more typically the target competitions are won by Winchester M70s, which resemble 98 Mausers.

There are lots of custom Mausers in the $10k - $100k range, but no Rem700s in that range.

The book to get is "Bolt Action Rifles" 4th edition by de Haas.
Of the ~100 bolt action covered in the above book, they seem to all be on the spectrum somewhere between the simple Rem700 and the complex 1898 Mauser design.
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Old 03-21-2010, 01:22 AM
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Re: Mauser K98 action?

I once poured some $$ into a M98. It was a mint 1912 Styer in 7x57. I had the smith chop the barrel at the first step and re-bore it to 280 Rem and this a big mistake. I should have had a new barrel put on the rifle.
I did not realize that the magazine on the 98 is shorter than a M700. I was young (20 something) and thought I knew it all. The action does feed 280 ammo correctly, but the bullets are seated very deep. Factory ammo will not fit into the magazine.
I should have left the chamber alone.
That being said I do have a very accurate reload for that old barrel using a 162gr Hornady SPBT.
Is my rifle worth a k-buck? I think not. But it does shoot minute of mule deer.
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Old 03-21-2010, 08:55 AM
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Re: Mauser K98 action?

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I have a friend that has 3 of these actions and is debating about building at least one of them up.

Pluses and minuses please.

Thanks
AJ
AJ, a mauser will make a fine gun. But if your starting with a military mauser, you can sink quite a bit into it to get it ready for a barrel; trigger, cock on close, bottom metal, saftey, bolt handle position, drill and tap base holes, proper heat treat, refinishing of metal, not to mention any truing work.

Now if you have a comercial reciever like the Mark X or the newer rem 798, all of these issues for the most part have been addressed. Honestly I think you could buy a new 798 and just rebarrel, and reuse the stock, bottom metal may-be a new trigger. and you would have a basically new reciever, that didn't have lug set back issues or some of the other problems that well used military recievers can and do have.
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Old 05-08-2010, 02:47 AM
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Re: Mauser K98 action?

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I once poured some $$ into a M98. It was a mint 1912 Styer in 7x57. I had the smith chop the barrel at the first step and re-bore it to 280 Rem and this a big mistake. I should have had a new barrel put on the rifle.
I did not realize that the magazine on the 98 is shorter than a M700. I was young (20 something) and thought I knew it all. The action does feed 280 ammo correctly, but the bullets are seated very deep. Factory ammo will not fit into the magazine.
I should have left the chamber alone.
That being said I do have a very accurate reload for that old barrel using a 162gr Hornady SPBT.
Is my rifle worth a k-buck? I think not. But it does shoot minute of mule deer.
The Military Mausers have a shorter magazine, but the commercial Mauser magazines are ready for 3.34" ammo.
I have lengthened lots of military magazines.

The PAWS aftermarket bottom metal is long and saves weight.

98 Mauser Triggerguard - P.A.W.S.
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