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Old 11-30-2012, 06:17 PM
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Looking at some lathes and mills on auction

Hello everyone. The tech school I attended for college is having an auction in a few weeks and this is the list of lathes and mills on the auction. Looking for advice on these machines as far as gunsmithing. When i went to college it was a split between welding and machine shop. So i didn't get a machine degree. I learned alot and want to get back into it but it has been 7 to 8 years since i was making chips. Im not looking to make a living at it at this point more of a hobby for myself and friends at this point.

American Pacemaker, Mdl 5K284D58, 16 x 54, 7-1/2 HP, 3PH
Clausing, Mdl 5914, 12 x 34, 2 HP, 3PH
Clausing, Mdl 5914, 12 x 34, 2 HP, 3PH
Clausing, Mdl 5914, 12 x 34, 2 HP, 3PH
LeBlond, 13 x 20, HP, 3PH
LeBlond, 15 x 40 , 1 HP, 3PH
South Bend, Mdl CL187Z, 10 x 20, 1 HP, 3PH
South Bend, Mdl 183C, 14 x 36, 1-1/2 HP, 3PH
South Bend, Mdl A, 14 x 28, 1 HP, 3PH
South Bend, Mdl 8113C, 13 x 40, 1 HP, 3PH

Vertical Mills
Bridgeport Vertical, Mdl 27, 9 x 32 Table, 3PH
Cincinnati Vertical, Mdl 80 205-12, 9 x 32 Table, 3PH
Ramco Universal, Mdl SMG2, 10 x 43 Table, 1/2 HP
Feed Motor & 2 HP Motor, 3PH

Any and all advice is greatly appreciated!
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Old 11-30-2012, 07:15 PM
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Re: Looking at some lathes and mills on auction

Where is this located ? Those all are basically good lathes so actual condition is key. Usually equipment from a school has low hours. Perhaps a few crashed of the cutter against the chuck, but shouldn't be drastic. Usually the equipment is well maintained and kept oiled.
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Old 11-30-2012, 07:39 PM
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Re: Looking at some lathes and mills on auction

It is in north platte nebraska. Thanks for the advice!
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Old 11-30-2012, 08:54 PM
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Re: Looking at some lathes and mills on auction

Proper nonenclature is 'swarf' not chips btw. Chips are what the English eat with their fish.

Have 3 phase at home? Lathes especially don't like static phase conversion because the start loads are high and repowering to 220/1 can be expensive and not practible if the machine is frequency drive.

Your prime concern will be bed length and spindle through hole internal diameter. The bigger the through hole the better and the longer the bed is (to a point) the better. You won't need anything longer than a 45" useable bed length *between centers". Make sure the machine is D1 camlock spindle, preferrably D1-4 or better and even better would b a diametrical thread cutting gearbox. All the manufactirers you listed are tits up so gtting parts can be a hassle...except B'Port that is now Hardridge.Make sure the machines are tooled and have taper attachments is possible. The nore hard tooling the better, Hard tooling can b 2-3 tims the cost of a machine and make sure the tool posts have Aloris or Aloris style wedge lock toolposts with corresponding toolholders.

Mills are mills. All vertical mills, unless CNC machining centers with tool changers are just fancy drill presses with power downfeed. get a B'Port, parts are available anywhere. Cincinatti is a good machine but parts can be a PITA. If any of the mills are BT40 or CAT40 spindles, get that. Unlike R8, Cat 40 and BT 40 are more versitale, locate more accurately when doing tool changes and offer through spindle coolant flow.

I've bought some great machine tools at school sales and some really bad ones too.
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Old 11-30-2012, 11:54 PM
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Re: Looking at some lathes and mills on auction

Ok thank you for the advice and my bad about the proper nonenclature about the "swarf"
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Old 12-01-2012, 12:01 AM
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Re: Looking at some lathes and mills on auction

Don't worry about the 3 phase requirement. All you do is run 220V single phase to you garage, then use a variable speed AC drive. I bought one from Hitachi for about $300. Go to driveswarehouse.com You want single phase in, variable 3 phase out. You end up starting and stopping the machine using the drive and the speed is controlled with a dial. The drive will even decelerate the spindle and can do it more sharply if you add an external load for braking.
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Old 12-01-2012, 12:09 AM
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Re: Looking at some lathes and mills on auction

Ok thank you. What would be a fair price to pay if these machines are in good condition? The add says the lathes come with typical accessories. Im assuming 3 and 4 jaw chucks.
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