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Unread 08-13-2010, 09:37 PM
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laminate stocks

ive always used wood and synthetic stocks,is laminate more water resistant than wood?and do they accumulate moisture?
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    Unread 08-13-2010, 10:33 PM
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    Re: laminate stocks

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    ive always used wood and synthetic stocks,is laminate more water resistant than wood?and do they accumulate moisture?
    No, They are impregnated with resin under high pressure and are very stable and weather
    resistant. They are also very stable due to the many different ply's with the grain running in
    many different directions.

    I have replaced all but a few of my synthetic stocks because they are better balanced, and
    as I said very stable (More so than a lot of synthetic stocks) they have the feel and looks of
    wood and they dampen the harmonics much better. with out exception all of the rifles stocks
    that were replaced improved the accuracy and consistency.

    They are also not as noisy as the synthetics when scraped by brush and weeds while hunting.

    There is still nothing that looks better than a fine piece of wood but for performance the
    laminate is hard to beat.

    Just my opinion

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    Re: laminate stocks

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    There is still nothing that looks better than a fine piece of wood but for performance the laminate is hard to beat.

    Just my opinion

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    Re: laminate stocks

    Just keep in mind that regardless of whether a stock is made from laminated wood or hardwood, it's ability to resist moisture, is only as good as the finish that's applied to it.
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    Unread 08-14-2010, 08:42 AM
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    Re: laminate stocks

    thanks for the info,i found a couple of comfortable stocks that are laminated
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    Unread 08-14-2010, 10:05 AM
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    Re: laminate stocks

    Coming from many backgrounds starting in a cabinet shop I can honestly say that every material moves be it walnut,plastic,steel,aluminum. One of the very worst is aluminum.
    Rutland plywood comes with movement pent up inside from the manufacturer.
    If you doubt the last statement, take a 12" X 36" piece of 2" thick material from Rutland and saw it lengthwise through the length of the 36 inches making yourself two pieces of 12 X 36" by 1" thick. The moment those two pieces clear the bandsaw they both instantly bow anywhere from 1/8 to 1/4 of an inch and they keep warping until the stress of manufacturing has been elliminated.
    The pretty laminates colors of todays gunstock plywood do NOT come in cross laminate like construction grade plywood. All laminates run parallel! That is why many times when a cutter is making a verticle grip stock it will crack right through the grip area. That and the resin has gotten to hot and made the wood hard and brittle. I worked a number of years in a plywood plant directly after working in dad's cabinet shop.
    During the past two decades I have found two materials that were inert and did not move before,during and after machining. One is a bit heavy material designed by Boeing for the aircraft industry about 60 years ago. Extremely tough on carbide bandsaws and carbide endmills so we quite using it. The other I told Jim See about and he is currently making rifle stocks with the material. Besides being the most stable material I have run across to date, it is the lightest after carbon fiber and is as strong as anything one might want to make a gun stock out of and still carry it.
    One of the properties of this new material to pass the grading process is it must be submersed in water for 48 hours and not come apart nor soak up water. Some other interesting properties was when the first sheet arrived at the cutters. I got a call from the cutter regarding how absolute flat the material was before during and after cutting from the large sheet 4' X8' into stock sized material. How, after cutting into a stock and submersed in water the stuff did not move. Absolute verticle A2,A5 and Tuley style grip stocks the wrist was virtually unbreakable before any finish was applied.

    Ever take one of those pretty laminate stocks, hold it over your head and dropped it on a concrete shop floor? I have and I was not happy with the results. The old walnut stocks are a much better material. The new walnut and maple laminates are even a better more stable material of dried correctly.

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    Unread 08-14-2010, 02:04 PM
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    Re: laminate stocks

    i use accurate innovations laminates, rock solid, 100% drop in, and "purty"
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