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How tough is it to bed a stock?

 
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Old 10-24-2009, 02:08 AM
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How tough is it to bed a stock?

I would like to bed the stock on my weatherby, how complicated is it?

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Old 10-24-2009, 03:31 PM
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Re: How tough is it to bed a stock?

DIY pillar bedding?
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Old 10-25-2009, 12:43 PM
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Re: How tough is it to bed a stock?

Bedding a rifle can be as simple or as complicated/nighmarish as the person doing it wants to make it.

There's an infinite number of things that can go wrong that will likely result in a ruined stock, receiver, or both.

This is a topic that is discussed on a regular basis in internet land and I will offer you the best advice that I think a guy could; if your detail orientated, familiar with epoxy resin systems and how they work, and have a good mechanical aptitude, then give it a try and be ready to fail.

I would suggest finding a disposable rifle to start experimenting with rather than taking on something you really care about.

I've bedded over a thousand guns in my ten years of doing this stuff. I like to think my bedding jobs are pretty good. Maybe even a bit better than most. Understand that there was a tremendously steep learning curve that resulted in a lot of money being spent to get it to that level.

Experience is never cheap.

Cheers and all the best,

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Old 10-28-2009, 12:22 PM
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Re: How tough is it to bed a stock?

I resently did my first bedding job on my pride and joy varmint rifle. Its a sav. mod.12 22-250. I have read numerous letters on diy bedding and it is not rocket science. My biggest fear was taking something apart or off the gun and not being able to reassemble it, i.e. the trigger group. Which turned out that by removing one pin the entire assembly comes off in ONE piece. Once I discovered that it was go time.

I re-read some articles on bedding, obtained the devcon compound, some neutral shoe polish, play-doh, masking tape. I removed small amounts of material from the correct places on the stock,play-dohed every nook and cranny and shoe polished all the metal surfaces on the action and barrel. Just take your time and visualize every place that the action and stock meet including action bolts, so you can either seal off with play-doh or apply polish to all the parts you do not want to stick together.
Take your time, do it in a space that lets you leave it sit so you are not movig parts all over in between steps. Don't start it on the kitchen table 2 hours after lunch.
So pick a diy thread that sounds good to you,take your time and after you pop that action out of the compound,reassemble everthing and shoot that first group that is now smaller, you will say wow that was easy, now I need to do the rest of my rifles..
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Old 10-29-2009, 10:15 AM
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Re: How tough is it to bed a stock?

The release agent used, and the method of applying it, quantity etc. seems to be most first time DIYers biggest downfall.
I had read the horror stories and didn't want to go down that road so,...
I used and still use lithium grease instead of shoe polish or wax etc.
They always come back out though!
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Old 10-29-2009, 01:52 PM
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Re: How tough is it to bed a stock?

Jumping back into this for a minute.

Long Range Hunting/Shooting implies a few things to most folks.

For me I'm struck with visions of a guy dilligently loading his ammunition to exacting specifications that commercial ammo can only dream about. I see things done with methodical precision and purpose. The rifle used for this game being the epitome of taking a past time seriously.

All that precision, preparation, and effort devoted to everything else yet white lithium grease and shoe polish are acceptable as a mold release for a precision casting?

I don't mean to pick at anyone in particular as this has been an accepted and standard practice for a very long time. It's just always baffled me to one degree or another. I guess lets start from the beginning. Just what is bedding exactly supposed to do? My experience has shown me that it's a tension free precision casting of where/how an action nests in a gun stock. It's sole purpose is to provide maximum surface contact for the transmission of recoil while still being inert to ambient conditions.

Bedding will not make a pigs ear a silk purse. A gun that sucks is still going to suck after it's been bedded. However a great gun will become exceptional, and so on.

In precision manufacturing with CNC's, aerospace, etc the use of molds is quite common. Parts that are precision cast use a commercially made mold release agent. It's usually silicone based and in an aerosol form so that coverage is an even, thin film. This is for a couple of reasons, one is so you can get the slug out of the mold and two so that surface finish is preserved/transfered to whatever is being cast.

I enjoy bedding rifles and I take a great personal pride in it. I've devoted a tremendous amount of time developing a process that yields results that are quite good on all fronts. I don't say this to beat my chest so much as to encourage others who want to take this on to approach it as something more than a "well it's good enough and no one sees it anyway" kind of mentality. One of the greatest rewards for me as a gunmaker is taking a rifle apart in front of a customer and seeing their eyes get big because the gun looks as nice disassembled as it does all together.

Commercial mold release agents are available from industrial supply vendors like MSC, McMaster Carr, and many others. An aerosol can will last a very long time. The surface finishes will greatly improve. no more smeared brush marks or swirly stains "water marks" in the resin when it cures.

Here's a sample or two:

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Old 10-29-2009, 04:26 PM
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Re: How tough is it to bed a stock?

Hello Chad,

Any opinions on Brownell's various release agents? I've seen a number of people recommend using products 'designed' or at least intended for use as a bedding release agent rather than the more common 'home-brew' stuff.

TIA,

Monte
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