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Old 04-03-2011, 10:46 PM
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Re: How to identify mauser 98 action.

Outofayr:

The particular caliber I'm thinking of using for the build will be the .22-250 Rem, mainly because I would love to have a bad ass prairie dog gun. My dad had his friend, a very qualified and experienced custom rifle builder, help him with his which was built around a Yugo 48. The Yugo 48 is a short action which to the best of knowledge makes it a great canidate for a short action caliber like the .22-250 Rem. Because the VZ 24 is a standard lenth action will I be able to get it to shoot like my dads yugo, which consistently shoots .4 inch groups or smaller?
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Old 04-04-2011, 06:09 AM
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Re: How to identify mauser 98 action.

While the Yugo 48 action is shorter than the VZ24 action, it is nowhere near actually being a short action.

That said, I have a 22-250 that I built on a BRNO 98/22 action (the immediate predecessor to the VZ24). With a cheap A&B barrel, I have tuned my handloads to produce pretty consistent sub .6" groups at 100 yards. With a better barrel, who knows what kind of accuracy potential my rifle would have?

The 22-250 works just fine in the full length mauser action. I haven't even bothered with putting in a mag block or changing the follower. You should have no problem building an accurate 22-250 on your VZ24 action.

I think that you will be very pleased with how your rifle performs when you have finished your build.
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Old 04-06-2011, 10:49 AM
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Re: How to identify mauser 98 action.

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The 48 is what is known as an intermediate action, and is only a little shorter than the standard 98 footprint. The Yugos are safety breached, and use a different bolt as a result. The action length difference won't matter in making them shoot. I've used an aftermarket trigger guard with an insert and shorter follower in my .22-250 Rem on the VZ-24 and it feeds like butter. Having said that, though, I didn't have any trouble getting that round to feed from the standard length mag. I just didn't like all that extra space in there

I, too, built mine using the Adams & Bennett prethreaded, short chambered barrel from Midway in an F34 contour. This is heavier than sporter, so it makes a nice walking varminter at 24" long. The only down side of this barrel is its slow twist (1-14"), so it won't stabilize some 55 gr bullets. But, the lighter bullets shoot fine, and if wind's an issue, I go to more gun anyway, so it doesn't bother me at all.

The barrel is what makes a good shooter, along with chambering, threading, etc. concentric w/ bore. For the money, I'm very pleased with the A&B barrels. Plus, you can usually get them right away instead of waiting 3-6 months for Shilen....but Shilen will shoot at least as good if not better, and will clean up easier.

Have fun with your build, and enjoy!

Brian
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Old 04-07-2011, 06:53 PM
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Re: How to identify mauser 98 action.

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I, too, built mine using the Adams & Bennett prethreaded, short chambered barrel from Midway in an F34 contour. This is heavier than sporter, so it makes a nice walking varminter at 24" long. The only down side of this barrel is its slow twist (1-14"), so it won't stabilize some 55 gr bullets. But, the lighter bullets shoot fine, and if wind's an issue, I go to more gun anyway, so it doesn't bother me at all.

The barrel is what makes a good shooter, along with chambering, threading, etc. concentric w/ bore. For the money, I'm very pleased with the A&B barrels. Plus, you can usually get them right away instead of waiting 3-6 months for Shilen....but Shilen will shoot at least as good if not better, and will clean up easier.

Have fun with your build, and enjoy!

Brian
Yup, the F34 is what I have as well. I have been very satisfied with its price/performance ratio. Incidentally, I have fired 55 gr factory loads with Berger and Sierra Blitzking bullets as well as handloads with 60 gr Hornady Spire Point bullets in my rifle. All of those bullets stabilized with no problem. They didn't produce the kind of accuracy that I was looking for, but they did stabilize. I am getting my best accuracy with 52 gr AMAX and 50 gr VMAX bullets.

I also have a pre-threaded short-chambered 26" Shilen #4 contour 1:12 twist barrel waiting in the wings for when I have shot my A&B out. That may be awhile, but I will be ready with another barrel when the time comes. For now, I really like the way my '98 mauser in 22-250 shoots 1:14 twist A&B barrel and all.
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Old 04-07-2011, 11:42 PM
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Re: How to identify mauser 98 action.

Since were on the topic of my first build and I have a pretty good idea that alot of you guys have ample experience on these types of builds, I would like to ask several more questions.

1. If there was an order as to what to do first and so on and so forth from there...what would it be??? Or does this really matter?

2. Are there any common pitfalls that a new builder might run into?

3. Were should I not sacrifice quality for price or vice a versa when it comes to this build (I want a rifle that will hold 1/2 moa out to 500 yds, and I would like to keep the overall price under $1200) Should I invest more money in a great scope, or more money into the best trigger, barrel, muzzel brake and stock that I can get my hands on for the price I'm willing to pay?
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Old 04-08-2011, 09:17 AM
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Re: How to identify mauser 98 action.

The Mauser 98 excells in many areas although I think your 1/2 MOA expectation is attainable, but optimistic. If that kind of accuracy is high on your list, you should possibly look at other actions to build on such as a Savage.

As for the scope, there's no doubt that optics are crucial as you increase precision and distance. However, it's much easier to replace/upgrade a scope than it is to replace the barrel. And, it's much easier to replace the barrel and/or stock than the action.

So, start with a solid foundation and work up.

- good financing
- good action - blueprinted (receiver and bolt)
- good barrel w/ proper twist - chambered and true with the action
- good stock - bedded and barrel floated
- good 20 MOA picatinny rail mounted without stress
- good scope and rings lapped in
- good bi-pod or shooting rest
- ground up barrel breakin, proper cleaning regimine, and load development

IMO - It's easier to decrease accuracy by cutting one or two corners than it is to increase accuracy.

-- richard
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Old 04-08-2011, 09:18 AM
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Re: How to identify mauser 98 action.

...and, I should've mentioned good reloading equipment, components, and methods of procedure. But, that's a whole other forum.

As for the guys that buy a $300 rifle and $19 box of ammo and consistently shoot 1/2 MOA, they should be playing the lottery. It never happens like that for me.

-- richard
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