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Old 09-26-2007, 09:35 PM
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I probably didn't explain it correctly,
I use the peanuts or cut out a piece of solid Styrofoam to fill the voids to within 1/8 of an inch of the barrel channel. then I cover it with duct tape and duct tape the barrel with two layers of tape and cover with release agent or Johnson's past wax, make sure their are no wrinkles in the tape, then I use Accra gel to bed the action when that is dry I apply a coat of gel along the barrel channel and over the void, then reset the action and barrel in the stock. Clean up any gel that oozes out along the barrel and when its cured remove the barreled action, you know have a solid stock with the barrel free floated, if you want to solid bed the barrel don't use the tape on the barrel just release agent. The recoil will have no effect on the bedding your stock will appear to be solid but without much weight added. I have done this to many stocks and they have never failed me.
As to the pillar bedding of the rear action screw you can cut with a dermal or drill out the action screw hole to 9/16's but do it off center then cut a 1/2 piece of round stock to length and bed it into the stock, after it cures place the action into the stock and mark the location of the rear action screw and drill it out of the round stock, nothing says the pillar has to have the hole in the center.
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Old 09-26-2007, 10:15 PM
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what long tooth is saying is hes makeing a tube out of the stock instead of a u shaped channel it's a boxed tube kinda like what they call a boxed spar on a airplane wing i can see were it will make a extremely strong and ridgid stock without alot of weight and if want a really strong stock use some carbon fiber ! LIGHT BULB

i have a tupperware savage stock when get back from my bear hunt im going to try it just for the heck of it and see how it shakes out

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Old 09-27-2007, 12:07 AM
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hmmm, guess I have some thinkin' to do, on a horse sense level I think just bedding a rigid rod into the bottom of the stock is probably the best thing to do. On the other hand, I can see how the geometry of an epoxy gable forming kind of a keystone at the top of the void would be a pretty rigid structure.

but drilling out a piece of bar stock, in exactly the right place and angle so as not to produce any stress on the action is just beyond my capability. I don't have a drill press or a jig that would allow me to drill out the stock true enough to leave the action stress free. No way. I wish I had the tools, but I don't.
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Old 09-27-2007, 10:00 AM
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Just a thought...I'm sure someone could confirm or deny my idea, but...isn't something that is round more flexible than something that is square. What I'm thinking is if you are going to bed something in the stock, wouldn't aluminium square stock or even small angle be stiffer and lighter than all-thread for the same size. Or maybe even a piece of aluminium square tube in the channel.
I don't know, just a thought. Maybe not a good one.
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Old 09-27-2007, 01:02 PM
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maybe, maybe not

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Just a thought...I'm sure someone could confirm or deny my idea, but...isn't something that is round more flexible than something that is square. What I'm thinking is if you are going to bed something in the stock, wouldn't aluminium square stock or even small angle be stiffer and lighter than all-thread for the same size. Or maybe even a piece of aluminium square tube in the channel.
I don't know, just a thought. Maybe not a good one.
THe stiffness is a function of the strength of the material and the shape. As you stated all thread is about the worst case scenario of stiffness vs. weight. A piece of pipe the same diameter as the all thread will be nearly as stiff and not nearly as heavy and will have the same stiffness in all directions. The same could be said of aluminum square stock. You would be better off using square or round tubing as the material in the center of the stock is not adding much if any strength or stiffness.
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Old 09-27-2007, 01:15 PM
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devildoc,

Look at this thread. You may find it extremely encouraging. If there is anyone on this forum with experiences with A-Bolts it would be Jon A

Pillar intallation on a Browing A-Bolt
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Old 09-27-2007, 07:53 PM
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That link you posted says it all. If my directions on bedding the stock are followed it will look like the eighth picture down when finished.
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