I don't use rods at all...haven't for about 25 years now...I don't "scrub" anything either, I have yet to encounter any copper fouling that Hoppes Benchrest solvent wont remove if used properly (let it soak a few hours, it won't hurt the barrel...even overnight).
I don't use Otis lubes or solvents...just the tools (cables and attachments)
CLP (have used other things for this...but prefer CLP)
Hoppes Benchrest solvent (not plain #9...)
Brushes (always wrapped with cloth...a bare brush never passes through my rifles)
Some patches (made of old cut up T-shirts)
Pull through cable attachments
Thats all I've used to clean my rifles since about 1987...no damaged bores, no fouling I couldn't remove, and I don't even know what a bore guide looks like (seriously).
Treat the rifle with some TLC as opposed to just jamming a rod down it or jerking a cable through...and all will be well. I've cleaned everything from a $200 Stevens to a $4,000 custom this way...it works for me...YMMV.
Nothing against a bore guide...I understand the concept and all...but they are not absolutely necessary if you just take your time and don't get carried away while cleaning.