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Case exploded today !!

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Unread 03-02-2009, 05:52 AM
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Re: Case exploded today !!

The headstamp is not Hornady and the box says "remanufactured". I believe that headstamp marks it as brass from China or Pakistan. lI would guess the cases were reloaded overseas, under contract with Hornady. It would be interesting to know the weight and type powder and primers they use. If you were seriously injured, I would not advise sending all of them to Hornady for inspection; your expert would want to examine some of them. And yes, you could sue Hornady; they would probably turn the case over to the overseas manufacturer for handling according to their vendors contract. What do primer impacts look like on the previously fired cases?
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Unread 03-02-2009, 08:45 AM
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Re: Case exploded today !!

Did not hit the target at 500 meters.

Originally Posted by NesikaChad View Post
Hornady as with any commercial ammunition manufacturer is interested in the quality of their products. I think they will be very very interested to see what happened.

As stated, I'd send them the case with a carefully written letter stating the facts. Offer point of contact information for any others who witnessed the event.

I'd ask them to also absorb the cost of repairing your rifle. I'd have a quote done up by a smith that you trust.

Ok, now the real question. Did you still hit the target??

Glad your ok!

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Unread 03-02-2009, 10:10 AM
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Wow that is unfortunate accident. . yo right, a perfect example of why to wear your safety gear, in this case very lucky.
The only thing I can offer is potentially head clearance was too great or you simply had a microscopic flaw in the case head(remanufactured ammo), for it to burst like that not only on the outside but inside the primer pocket. Iíve had a hornady SST blown primer , among other factory blown primers, but never a ripped case. The vertical tear(s) in the case head versus a typical horizontal tear or ripple (case head separation) is definitely not good and lends itself to brass flaw (obvious as that sounds) but would not be using that stuff in the near future.
I would check case dimensions and head space of some of the remainingÖ but I would definitely call or email Hornady and send them a batch of ammo. Iíve dealt with them before and they were good to deal with.
Good luck, glad your ok
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Unread 03-02-2009, 11:08 AM
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Re: Case exploded today !!

Never seen a failure like this. Have had blown primers, smoked up case heads, gas cuts on bolt faces, even a slamfire that shredded the case and blew a chunk out of the stock, but nothing that ever looked just like this. The first thing that came to my mind when I saw the pictures was a light powder charge that detonated instead of burning. The heavy smoke and residue are good clues to whatever it was that happened.

The brass is LC.

Looks like some major repairs to the rifle are in order. In addition to the fried extractor, the bolt itself may be damaged. You may also find some of the primer inside the firing pin hole.

A flaw in the case head is possible, but if this is reloaded brass it should have failed on the first firing. I would hang on to the case if for nothing else than as a trophy and reminder. The pictures are very good and easy to transmit for study.

I have got to do better at wearing eye protection!

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Last edited by specweldtom; 03-02-2009 at 11:29 AM. Reason: spelling, add LC brass
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Unread 03-02-2009, 11:24 AM
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That is not Hornady Ammo... The LC Brass is not made to produce .223 pressures with SAAMI loadings. The military spec brass is a little thicker hence less volume so ---- loading volume is a little less and with higher pressure than spec loads this stuff happens esp in marginal conditions eg high ambient temps or in letting the round sit in a hot chamber before firing.....
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Unread 03-02-2009, 06:23 PM
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It would be interesting to see how much powder is in these rounds. Like others have said I wouldn't give up all your evidence! I did a little Internet searching and It seems that this stuff may be fueled by Varget powder. Links and Resources had an add for the stuff for sale and said that it was a 75g BTHPM bullet, varget, and Lakes City brass. No longer available I guess.
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Unread 03-02-2009, 06:49 PM
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Spoke with Hornady today and they are issuing a call tag for the ammo so they can inspect it.
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