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Old 03-17-2011, 09:11 AM
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Re: bore solvent

I use GM top engine cleaner mixed with Kroil for the first scrub. It won't remove copper but is a little cheaper that some of the other solvents. I saw a gentleman using diesel fuel at the Hunter Nationals. He won the 100 yds. Don't know what that says. I have a couple recipes for some supposedly pretty good stuff but can't find all the ingredients. I sent my wife to the pharmacy to get sodium hydroxide and they almost put her on the terrorist list.
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Old 03-17-2011, 09:15 AM
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I use GM top engine cleaner mixed with Kroil for the first scrub. It won't remove copper but is a little cheaper that some of the other solvents. I saw a gentleman using diesel fuel at the Hunter Nationals. He won the 100 yds. Don't know what that says. I have a couple recipes for some supposedly pretty good stuff but can't find all the ingredients. I sent my wife to the pharmacy to get sodium hydroxide and they almost put her on the terrorist list.
Excellent use of your wife!
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Old 03-17-2011, 01:34 PM
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I did a test a while back to prove to myself about BoreTech Eliminator. I cleaned rifles with these cleaners first until the patches came out clean. Then I went back in with BoteTech Eliminator. BTE did go in and remove more copper the others left behind.

Test solvents were.

Sweets 7.62
Shooters Choice
Montana Extreme
Butches Bore Shine
and a few other I would have to go and look in the cabinet.

Don't take my word for it. Do the test your self. I had been using these others for years and could not believe it either. But now I know what I feel works best and I use BoreTech.

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Broz

I used to use BTE until we looked at my bore with a borescope. Looked like a gold mine and BTE was showing it clean. We put in some ME 50 BMG and blue river ran out for 10-15 minutes and borescope showed it clean then.

Also beware of the false positive for green coming off bronze jags.

Borescope is the only way to tell.

BH
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Old 03-18-2011, 12:15 AM
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Re: bore solvent

I use a little of everything and change it up all the time. Most are pretty effective when you follow the instructions. My favorite at the moment is Bore Tech Eliminator. If I have a really bad one Holland Witches brew does a nice job.

I have been bore scoping a bunch of rifles the last couple months. I did learn one thing for sure. In a heated safe, stainless will corrode and regular steel barreled rifles will rust up like an old engine manifold if you swab them out with alcohol before storage and it only takes a couple days to do it. Just a little Rem oil will keep them like new for a long time in storage.

I also learned Wipe Out Accelerator with Wipe Out rusted the heck out of my Remington MLR barrel and action in minutes.

AAfter cleaning always use an oil of some sort to protect your bore unless you are going shooting right now. A Rem oil wet patch followed wih a tight dry patch has very little impact shift if any.
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Old 03-18-2011, 12:42 AM
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Broz

I used to use BTE until we looked at my bore with a borescope. Looked like a gold mine and BTE was showing it clean. We put in some ME 50 BMG and blue river ran out for 10-15 minutes and borescope showed it clean then.

Also beware of the false positive for green coming off bronze jags.

Borescope is the only way to tell.

BH
My experience is the same as Broz and I use Nickel plated jags. I've used both Montana Xtreme and Copper cream (and others) until they showed white patches and then got blue patches with BTE after, with nickel plated jags.

When using BTE you need to let it soak. On the first couple of passes you will get blue patches instantly but when you get down to stuborn copper you need to let it soak. When I get a white patch after 20 min of soaking, I soak it again and let it soak for 40 min and get a blue patch (from a factory barrel).

If you use BTE properly it will clean your bore to bare metal. I know this because after a BTE cleaning, I have soaked the bore with Wipeout for 8 hours and got a white patch and when I get a white patch from 8 hrs of Wipeout, the bore is completely free of copper... according to a borescope.

If you think 50 BMG has your bore clean, soak it good with BTE and work it in with a few passes of a nylon brush and let it sit for 40 min and see what happens, with a nickel platted jag. Been there, done that.
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Old 03-18-2011, 07:35 AM
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Re: bore solvent

Here are a couple tests that show copper solvent results:


Test 1

Test 2

I now use KG-12 copper solvent for my centerfire guns. It removes the copper solvent. I don't use it after each outing, I only clean when accuracy goes away. Here in the desert, single digit humidity levels do not attack metal as bad as other places.
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Old 03-18-2011, 08:12 AM
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Broz

I used to use BTE until we looked at my bore with a borescope. Looked like a gold mine and BTE was showing it clean. We put in some ME 50 BMG and blue river ran out for 10-15 minutes and borescope showed it clean then.

Also beware of the false positive for green coming off bronze jags.

Borescope is the only way to tell.

BH
I have nickel coated jags and have used the Montana 50 BMG , it was part of my tests and I still have the bottle I used. My results were oposite from yours. This is why I did the test to see what works for me. I do not have my own scope but I frequent my local smiths shop pretty regular. I have have my barrels scoped for this reason and to wach for errosion. I also have him look at them after I break them in to make sure I did a good job. He usually complements me on my cleaning and process. Thanks for the heads up, I appreciate your concern. But as long as my rifles are scoping good, producing white patches and holding 1/2 moa to 1000 and beyond I am going to keep doing what works for me. This is why I advised in my post "do the test for yourself" " Your milage may vary"

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