Aftermarket firing pin assemblies for savage

frequent misser · #1 02-06-2011, 11:44 PM

I have finally gotten on the savage bandwagon and decided to build a 7 stw on a 110 action. I had picked up a 110 270 for next to nothing and decided I should do something with it. After firing it in factory form it seemed like it took a month of sundays after you pulled the trigger for the firing pin to hit home. I have been looking for an aftermarket firing pin assembly with a stiffer spring but have come up empty. Can anyone tell me where I can find one? I have replaced the original ones in my remingtons but have come up empty in my quest for tricking out this savage. Thanks for any help.

Forester · #2 02-07-2011, 08:24 AM

Have you pulled the bolt apart to check that all is in good shape? Savage's have a considerably faster lock time than Remingtons. If you are noticing a delay something is wrong with the gun/bolt.

I would either call Savage directly about parts or try Sharp Shooter Supply.

frequent misser · #3 02-07-2011, 10:35 AM

I did take it apart and clean it. It was a little gummy in there. I am exagerating a little bit. It still just seems a touch slow to me. I have checked sss and most of the other gun places I would expect to find something. I am just wanting a stiffer spring than factory. If I can't find anything I will try another factory spring. I'm just wondering if there isn't something a little better out there that I haven't found yet. I know there are a bunch of savage guys here and I am hoping someone has tweaked out one of these actions and been here done this.

Trickymissfit · #4 02-07-2011, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by frequent misser

I have finally gotten on the savage bandwagon and decided to build a 7 stw on a 110 action. I had picked up a 110 270 for next to nothing and decided I should do something with it. After firing it in factory form it seemed like it took a month of sundays after you pulled the trigger for the firing pin to hit home. I have been looking for an aftermarket firing pin assembly with a stiffer spring but have come up empty. Can anyone tell me where I can find one? I have replaced the original ones in my remingtons but have come up empty in my quest for tricking out this savage. Thanks for any help.

I did a Tubbs speedlock in one of my 112's, and it was noticeably faster, but didn't shoot any better. Actually I think the firing pin hit so hard that it might have been moving the cases. One of these days I'm going to do some experimenting with the spring pressurers. In a Mod. 12 I don't think there's much to gain with a speed lock kit, and I've heard Fred over at Sharpshooter say they are a waste of money.
gary

Forester · #5 02-08-2011, 09:28 AM

Savage lock time is something on the order of 1.65ms. Compare that with a Remington short action at 2.6ms, or a Winchester M70 at about 3ms.

If you feel yours is slow I would put a factory spring in it and see if that helps. A factory Savage has a lock time on par with about any of the best custom actions from what I understand.

Trickymissfit · #6 02-08-2011, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Forester

Savage lock time is something on the order of 1.65ms. Compare that with a Remington short action at 2.6ms, or a Winchester M70 at about 3ms.

If you feel yours is slow I would put a factory spring in it and see if that helps. A factory Savage has a lock time on par with about any of the best custom actions from what I understand.

I've seen that same set of numbers before, and all are bogus. The correct calculation for lock time is really when the trigger lets the hammer go (or whatever method used). A Remington is well into the mid threes and a savage is in the mid twos. A Winchester (or most all Mauser actions) is in the fours. The only thing slower is a Springfield and an Enfield. The fastest known lock time on a production rifle is a 788 Remington, and it is about 2.6ms (or somewhere close). Most gun writers acting as a shill for a company (usually getting freebies by the way) will use calculation of nothing but the firing pin inside the bolt; this is incorrect because that's only the last half of the lock time mechanics. Fred Morello a few years back did a thesis on what was happening and how. He went so far as to publish the correct numbers (you have the in the correct order, but the times are no way close). What I thought was amazing was how slow many of the custom bench rest actions are. Lock time always starts when the trigger breaks; not when the firing pin starts moving.
gary

geargrinder · #7 02-08-2011, 07:44 PM

What style cocking sleeve do you have? That is the piece that holds the cocking pin in the firing pin.

They made two different styles. A fully round one with a keyhole slot milled in it, and the other is slotted all the way through.

Both of them can be out of round and drag in the bolt body as the firing pin is released. The slotted one is more prone to opening up and dragging more.

I replace my slotted ones with round ones. Make sure it is really round. Polish the outside of the sleeve. Polish as much of the inside of the bolt body as possible.