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Old 07-02-2011, 04:35 PM
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Re: Savage Mark II Versus Ruger 10/22

Aldon, my 10-22 is shooting at 50 yds what what your Savage is shooting at 100 yds. I don't know about anybody else, but .57" sounds phenomenal to me. I'd be happy too.

Greyfox, same results comparing at 50 yds. my 10-22 is shooting 1/2" groups, not 1/4". I'm not disappointed, but I don't expect it will ever shoot 1/4"

I don't know what the custom 10-22's are capable of, but dollar for dollar it sounds like the Savage is a better deal for accuracy.

Captainjoe, Looks like you got your answer, particularly since you said you wanted to shoot long range. 100 yds for a .22 L/R is long range to me.

Good thread, clear results. Tom
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Old 07-06-2011, 08:11 AM
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Re: Savage Mark II Versus Ruger 10/22

Savage MKII, DIP bottom metal, trigger guard, and 25 MOA base. The bottom metal is only if you want to try to tune the stock screws, and trigger guard only if you want metal under your finger. A little accutrigger tuning, and you should be good to go.
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Old 08-25-2011, 12:22 PM
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Re: Savage Mark II Versus Ruger 10/22

I would go for the CZ over the Savage. The Savage's one problem is the extractor wears out in short order. Our club has three of them for youth shoots and they stopped extracting after a couple thousand rounds. Other than that they are great. If you don't mind rebuilding the bolt once in awhile the Savage would be ok.
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Old 12-28-2011, 12:17 PM
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Re: Savage Mark II Versus Ruger 10/22

Just wanted to add to my earlier post otherwise It may look like I was BS'ing everyone or at very least stretching the truth with regard to Savage Mark II TR

It may have been ideal conditions, or the absolute pristine/virgin barrel or perhaps I had a better than usual more accurate lot of ammo on the day I shot the phenominal groups of less than an inch at 100 yards.

More recently the best I can sustain from group to group of 5 shot strings is 1.25 inches with occasional 1.5 inch groupings.

I have bedded the rifle, upgraded to higher power Nikon optics, and the next step is some Dip bottom etal so I can get some consistent torque settings on action screws.

From my reading 1.25 consistently is pretty decent so I am still happy with the savage. Although I have seen what it is capable of and I feel like I am chasing a will-o-wisp

My goal is to consistently shoot 1 Inch or less as 100, then start shooting for groups at 200.
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Old 12-28-2011, 01:15 PM
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Re: Savage Mark II Versus Ruger 10/22

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Just wanted to add to my earlier post otherwise It may look like I was BS'ing everyone or at very least stretching the truth with regard to Savage Mark II TR

It may have been ideal conditions, or the absolute pristine/virgin barrel or perhaps I had a better than usual more accurate lot of ammo on the day I shot the phenominal groups of less than an inch at 100 yards.

More recently the best I can sustain from group to group of 5 shot strings is 1.25 inches with occasional 1.5 inch groupings.

I have bedded the rifle, upgraded to higher power Nikon optics, and the next step is some Dip bottom etal so I can get some consistent torque settings on action screws.

From my reading 1.25 consistently is pretty decent so I am still happy with the savage. Although I have seen what it is capable of and I feel like I am chasing a will-o-wisp

My goal is to consistently shoot 1 Inch or less as 100, then start shooting for groups at 200.
I have no problem believing your accuracy claims with the Savage. I have the Stainless thumb hole MK II and get consistant .5moa five shot groups at 100 yards. I had tested several brands of ammo until I found that Remington/Eley Club Extra produced this accuracy. I was then able to buy 1000 rounds of the same lot for competition. My son in law has gotten the same kind of results with his TR using Federal Ultra Match. My Club Extras do not shoot under 1.5" in his rifle. I have found that these rifles are very ammo sensitive. I have been shooting my rifle out at 200 yards but had to change ammo. The Club Extra wouldn't group at the longer ranges. My best so far is Remington High Velocity HP Gold Tips. On a totally windless day, I can get 2-3 inch groups out at 200. They shoot an inch at 100.
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Old 12-28-2011, 01:53 PM
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Re: Savage Mark II Versus Ruger 10/22

Greyfox,

Do you find the Savage - 22lr ammo accuracy relationship to be sensitive to Temperatures?

I initially bought several brands and typs of ammo and my gun liked the SK Match. During summer heat is when I was getting great accuracy.

When the weather cooled off, ie winter, the accuracy took a turn for the worse.

That is when I decided to bed the rifle.

Gained a little/fraction of accuracy back but it is not what I was getting this summer.

Guess I will have to start the process over and plan on doing the same for extended distances as your post indicated.
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Greyfox,

Do you find the Savage - 22lr ammo accuracy relationship to be sensitive to Temperatures?

I initially bought several brands and typs of ammo and my gun liked the SK Match. During summer heat is when I was getting great accuracy.

When the weather cooled off, ie winter, the accuracy took a turn for the worse.

That is when I decided to bed the rifle.

Gained a little/fraction of accuracy back but it is not what I was getting this summer.

Guess I will have to start the process over and plan on doing the same for extended distances as your post indicated.
Yes, I have seen accuracy and poi shifts with 25+ degree drops in temperature. Usually under an inch at 100 yards. Also, big differences between a clean barrel and dirty one. My best accuracy is obtained with a well fouled barrel . It takes me a half a box of ammo to get the rifle shooting to potential if I start with a clean barrel. I have not been cleaning at all for the last several hundred rounds and have maintianed my accuracy.
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