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Savage B.Mag 17 Winchester Super Mag Teardown

 
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Old 05-27-2014, 12:11 PM
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Re: Savage B.Mag 17 Winchester Super Mag Teardown

Rotts,

Don't jump on me. I'm only reporting what I've found and making suggestions for a means to identify and localize the problems. I don't KNOW that the problem isn't with the B.MAG, just as I don't KNOW that it isn't with the ammunition. I'm simply pointing out what I learned in my last outing that seems to substantiate the results of all my previous outings with the .17WSM.

Insofar as an answer to your question: If you made and sold widgets that only worked in combination with a separately purchased gizmo made by a different company, and if you had corporate agreements to promote the success of the combined product, wouldn't you keep replacing the customer's widget, while quietly working behind the scenes with the gizmo manufacturer to get the gizmo right? What's the alternative? Throw up your hands and publicly say, "the widget-gizmo combo is no good because my business partner can't make a working gizmo"? Not a good ploy if you want to stay in business selling widgets.
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Old 05-27-2014, 12:34 PM
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Re: Savage B.Mag 17 Winchester Super Mag Teardown

17Fireball,

On May 22nd, I received an email from a lady at Winchester with whom I've had previous exchanges. She told me she had forwarded my email to one of their engineers for review, but that he was in the process of moving his office and had yet to get to my email. She offered to cut a check to me in exchange for the 17WSM ammo I have. I replied to her with a 'let's make a deal' email. I'm still waiting for the reply from either the engineer or my contact.
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Old 05-27-2014, 01:33 PM
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Re: Savage B.Mag 17 Winchester Super Mag Teardown

Oregon, I didn't mean to jump on you. If you read my first report, I had ammo that had tabs on the case mouth that stuck up. I did return the cases and rest of one box, and Winchester sent me $25. It seems that there are variables in ammo and weapon both. Tough to fix the problem with so many variables, but I did buy a new rifle on 1/17, and have yet to get a day's use out of it. When I sent my rifle to Savage, it took 2 weeks for it to go from their receiving dept. to the repair shop. I was told"Well, it is a very big factory" when I commented on the delay to one of their reps.
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Old 05-27-2014, 10:51 PM
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Re: Savage B.Mag 17 Winchester Super Mag Teardown

Check out the article entitled, "Fast-Stepping Smallbore" on page 24 of the May 2014 issue of Guns magazine. I think the author's words are going to resonate with a lot of us.
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Old 05-27-2014, 11:10 PM
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Re: Savage B.Mag 17 Winchester Super Mag Teardown

I don't get the magazine. Could you paraphrase for us?
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Old 05-27-2014, 11:50 PM
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Re: Savage B.Mag 17 Winchester Super Mag Teardown

The author, Holt Bodinson, reviews the history of the .17-caliber cartridge, leading to development of the .17WSM round. He then provides a physical description of the B.MAG and it's characteristics. He starts with the bolt, finding it stiff and the barrel thin compared to other varmint rifles. He then shoots the B.Mag at 100-yards with both the 20gn and 25gn cartridges and gets groups ranging 1⅜" to 2". He then describes his "issues", describing most all of the "issues" discussed in this thread.

You should find a copy of the magazine and read the story.
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Old 05-28-2014, 06:56 AM
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Re: Savage B.Mag 17 Winchester Super Mag Teardown

This is such an amazing feat I hope somebody gets the 17WSM in a gun that shoots better. Amazing caliber and would be a shame to lose it. Thanks for sharing the information. I'm guessing he did not say anything about the ammo case neck splitting issues or give reasons for the extraction issues?

Will be interesting to look back five years from now to see who owns up to the issues and if they are able to be resolved.
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