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Old 09-02-2010, 01:53 AM
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Proper barrel break in for new Savage 93R17

Got a birthday gift in the form of a Savage 93R17 BTVS with the Nutmeg laminated thumbhole stock and stainless heavy barrel. Put on a 14x Mueller stainless scope to finish off the combo. But Uncle sam sent me to Korea before I could event shoot 1 single round...So its sitting new in my safe back home...

As soon as I get home I want to shoot this thing, but I also want to break in the barrel properly. Suggestions?
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Old 09-02-2010, 05:37 PM
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Re: Proper barrel break in for new Savage 93R17

Just shoot it.

Have fun!
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Old 09-03-2010, 10:04 PM
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Got a birthday gift in the form of a Savage 93R17 BTVS with the Nutmeg laminated thumbhole stock and stainless heavy barrel. Put on a 14x Mueller stainless scope to finish off the combo. But Uncle sam sent me to Korea before I could event shoot 1 single round...So its sitting new in my safe back home...

As soon as I get home I want to shoot this thing, but I also want to break in the barrel properly. Suggestions?
A 17 caliber is no different than any other rifle that shoots jacketed bullets they all need
break in if you want the barrel not to foul as bad and clean up fast and easy.

I recomend the shoot 1 round and clean method like most barrel makers and the number
of times you have to do this is normally some where between 5 and 10 shots (some barrels
will require more depending on the quality of the barrel).

At some point you will feel the difference and the bore will clean up with one or two patches,
then go to 3 shots and clean for 4 or 5 times and it should be broke in.

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Old 09-06-2010, 06:03 AM
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Re: Proper barrel break in for new Savage 93R17

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A 17 caliber is no different than any other rifle that shoots jacketed bullets they all need
break in if you want the barrel not to foul as bad and clean up fast and easy.

I recomend the shoot 1 round and clean method like most barrel makers and the number
of times you have to do this is normally some where between 5 and 10 shots (some barrels
will require more depending on the quality of the barrel).

At some point you will feel the difference and the bore will clean up with one or two patches,
then go to 3 shots and clean for 4 or 5 times and it should be broke in.

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Does anyone make a bore guide for the 17 caliber? I have never used one on any rifle I have ever owned, but I figure I should start using them.
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Does anyone make a bore guide for the 17 caliber? I have never used one on any rifle I have ever owned, but I figure I should start using them.
Yes they make a bore guide that fits a 17 cal.

Gun slick makes a universal one that fits a 17 cal +

And Possum Hollow Makes one calaber and rifle specific.

The one that Possum Hollow makes for the savage in 17 calaber is a # 115 .

There are other brands also these are just a few.

And I highly recomend the use of a bore guide on all rifles that can be cleaned from
the breach and for those that have to be cleaned from the muzzle a brass rod guide
that will go in the crown is a must if you want to maintain accuracy.

The bore snakes work fairly well but not like a good rod cleaning. (I use the bore
snake for temporary clean up in the field on all of my fire arms.

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Old 09-06-2010, 10:22 AM
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Re: Proper barrel break in for new Savage 93R17

I have found these threads interesting, FWIW:

Barrel break ins - TheFiringLine Forums

Objective research on Barrel Break-in procedures - Sniper's Hide Forums
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Old 09-07-2010, 10:09 AM
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Re: Proper barrel break in for new Savage 93R17

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This post is not intended to start an argument just clarify the reason that I recomend
break in of a new or even a used barrel that was not broken in in the beginning.

I read these post and found them to be very interesting and some good points were
brought out that bear discussing. and some were ridiculously over stated.

The first post talked about How fast you would wear out the barrel if you cleaned every
time you shot. one of the numbers was 100 rounds to break in. That's silly now one shoots
and cleans 100 times.

The second post talks about a truth telling Bore scope (I have one to) and I am sure that
they know how to interpret there findings. I made my living as a metallurgical Inspector
and I do know what I see and the difference between barrels that have been broken in
"properly".

First let me say that I do not care if someone agrees or disagrees with my findings
because they have a right to there on opinions, and it does not offend me if they
disagree with me. That's what makes the world go round.

I only know what I see and can prove to myself, I have tried as many things as possible
to make barrel life and accuracy better for my self and most of the improvements have
been common sense applications.

When I first started competition shooting I did like I had allways done with a new rifle
Shoot till I was tired and go home and clean for several hours or how ever long it took.

The worst case I encountered was a big bore that I shot 50 rounds through it and had
enough. so I went home and cleaned for at least 4 hours before I finally got a clean
patch.

That is when I set out to find a better way. This was a factory rifle and normally they are
not lapped like the custom barrels so they require more shots to smooth out the bore
so they will clean up easy. (Some never get better , they just fowl).

I have had almost every bad experience with barrels that is possible and wanted to stop
this and start having fun again . so I started doing different things to try to solve this
and hear are "MY" findings.

If I started shooting without any cleaning regiment they continued to fowl for ever and
even though they got better, they never cleaned up fast. (One or two patches).

The custom barrels do much better and the hand lapped are the best about not fowling if
they are lapped properly.

When you shoot copper fouling can build up, and actually protect the bore from ware but
it requires a much more intense cleaning and as stated earlier improper cleaning will do
more damage than shooting does.

If you do decide to use the/a break in procedure you must know how to properly clean
with out damaging the bore (Bore guides,solvent use, type and size of cleaning rod and
jags, never from the muzzle and ETC.) but these are things that everyone should know
to clean a bore properly.

The main reason I like to do break in is that it starts to reach its potential accuracy soon
and cleans up easier which minimizes cleaning that can damage the bore.

All of the rifles that I used a proper break in procedure, factory or custom clean up fast and
require very little brushing . I have not had an barrel shoot out and only set back a few
that had washed out the throat in order to restore accuracy.

If a person elects to just shoot and clean up when they are through shooting, will
continue to have to clean excessively and probably do more damage that good.

There are a lot of things that can damage a fine barrel, So I try to keep it clean and free
of anything that will shorten its potential life.

And after a few shoot and clean break in shots (Normally no more than 8 or 9 I dont even
use a brush ,just a cotton swab to apply the solvent and a couple of dry patches and it
is clean and when I look at it with the bore light it has no fowling copper or carbon. this
way the only damage to the bore is from shooting.

I realize that this post will not change the minds of some because of there experances with
this issue . and it was not intended to change anyone's mind just give them a choice to do
what they want and live with there decision.

I will continue to do break in on all of my custom rifles because it works for me and I don't
mind a little more effort if the results are better.

Enough Said

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