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Old 02-10-2014, 09:25 PM
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Re: Ultimate Muzzleloader......

From what I've seen, Bad Bull is in the lead position with smokeless, their rem 700 based smokeless runs a little faster and probably even cleaner than white hot in an Ultimate Muzzleloader. A few guys on Doug's site are running hot and mixed loads with 275 grain bullets upwards of 2700fps. I think the risks are high though and injury could be fatal. I'll bet the Ultimate Muzzleloader with a little better bc bullets will extend today range. I think they have a great platform, I spoke with Mr. Johnson today and I will probably put in an order tomorrow. Stay in touch on this, we can compare notes, muzzleloading with accuracy out to 500 or so yards seems pretty cool. The limiting factor on longer range is bc right now. I think this will change in time.
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Old 02-10-2014, 11:04 PM
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Re: Ultimate Muzzleloader......

so what kind of drift could one expect to get with these pellet shooters at 500 yards and 10 mph cross wind?
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Old 02-10-2014, 11:19 PM
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Re: Ultimate Muzzleloader......

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so what kind of drift could one expect to get with these pellet shooters at 500 yards and 10 mph cross wind?
With the 275 match hunter with as BC of .385 at 2400fps it would be 35 inches of wind drift and a 7 moa adjustment on your scope.

I would bet that encore isn't going to be putting a Simmons on this gun and will be getting a gun with target turrets to make the correct adjustment on the snore for long shots.
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Old 02-11-2014, 08:23 AM
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With the 275 match hunter with as BC of .385 at 2400fps it would be 35 inches of wind drift and a 7 moa adjustment on your scope.

I would bet that encore isn't going to be putting a Simmons on this gun and will be getting a gun with target turrets to make the correct adjustment on the snore for long shots.
I'm looking at both the VX6 and the Mark series. I know shooters with the VX6 3-18 CDS and it gets them what they need, although I've seen rifles with the Mark series on them. I may have a way to get a Pro Discount on either one of the scopes, which would be DARN NICE. I think I may have mentioned this before but, part of the whole quest is that I'm obtaining everything without touching the savings account or having to "GET A JOB!", as the wife puts it. I have to admit, this part is work, but fun too! (I've been retired to long to want a job BTW)

Its going to be a whole new adventure and will be fun learning LONG range shooting. Its one thing to shoot 200yds, which are chip shots but, 350yds and beyond takes some learning. This is will be a complete new learning adventure, where wind and other environmental conditions must be learned. Now I'm in no way bashing T/C (which I shoot), CVA, Knight or any other production rifle but, I've reached the point where there's nothing more I can do with production rifles. Its like the Encore platform rifles, I can take them apart, change trigger springs, locking bolt springs, firing pin springs, hammer springs, hone and polish the sear, install trigger over travel screws but, I still end up with a 200yd rifle. I can open up the safe, grab my Pro Hunter (Bad Medicine) and my shoot'n box and walk out to the back yard bench and shoot 50 rounds and know exactly what's going to happen every time. However now something new is about to start happening and I'm looking forward to it.
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Old 02-13-2014, 09:09 AM
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Good luck on the new adventure!


Im happy with my little short stubby(24"bbl) CVA wolf, it does exactly what i got it for, missouri bp season is basically the last 10 days of the year, by then the deer around home are over the rifle season, starting to herd up(20-100+) and stalking into 100 yards is pretty easy providing the snow isnt crunchy...in mo bp is just to try to avoid tag soup...
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Old 02-13-2014, 05:51 PM
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Re: Ultimate Muzzleloader......

I just ordered an Ultimate yesterday and I'm having him put a vx-6 on it, he is a gunsmith and hunter and his team just won the Nationals with his rifles. The setup up is identical to all the guys on his shooting team, vx-6 with the firedot and his turret matching the load. He bragged about the firedot for hunting, it is one of the best hunting reticles in the field. He said he will zero it in, make sure it shoots as advertised and put his turret on it. Basically turnkey. It costs to do this, but I won't need another ml and his name on it is golden. I really liked talking with him, he is getting older now (75) but loves building rifles and especially these ml's. He told me he gets a special single shot action from Remington, made the way he wants it and I like his knowledge. The gun will retain it's value and be safe to shoot. There are not too many people in the ml business at the gunsmith level, so that is pretty unique. Some states have month long muzzle seasons, so I plan to do some hunting trips and I want something of high quality that lasts. He also has had lots of success building bench rifles too, and has a regular team shooting at Camp Perry. All good stuff guys, I'll let you know more when I get it, around early May.

Love to hunt, spending the bucks on a custom. I might get an Encore as a backup, they can be had occasionally for 500 I think.
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Old 02-13-2014, 05:57 PM
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Re: Ultimate Muzzleloader......

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Good luck on the new adventure!


Im happy with my little short stubby(24"bbl) CVA wolf, it does exactly what i got it for, missouri bp season is basically the last 10 days of the year, by then the deer around home are over the rifle season, starting to herd up(20-100+) and stalking into 100 yards is pretty easy providing the snow isnt crunchy...in mo bp is just to try to avoid tag soup...
Totally understandable, at least everything but the last part. My Pro Hunter has served me very well and in most cases and most days, it does exactly what its designed to do.

BP is the only way I've hunted for probably the last 25 years, except for one season I took a doe with an old Marlin Model 1881 in 40-60 and when going to Saskatchewan, I take a centerfire. Muzzleloading gets in shooters blood and once you build your confidence in them over the years, some of us want more or a change. I try to make it fun and enjoy what capabilities I have left....
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