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Old 04-13-2014, 12:52 PM
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Re: Ultimate Muzzleloader......

Originally Posted by yotebuster17 View Post
Hey Guys, I'm an inch away from pulling the trigger on either a black widow or a carbon barreled one. I want it drilled and tapped for sights as I will potentially hunt colorado with it, but also will use it mostly with a scope. What is your take on the fluted steel barrel vs the carbon barrel? I will be mountain hunting with it, so weight is an issue, but I don't think the weight difference is that big. Any reports or accuracy/durability on the carbon barrels? I'm leaning away from the thumbhole as I dont like the ergonomics of it, is the regular mcmillan stock as good as the thumbhole?
The fluted barrels are more for aesthetic appeal, it will save a few ounces but not a big difference. The carbon wrapped barrels are much lighter but come at a price. Make sure you get a brake if you get the carbon barrel. I'm not a fan of thumbholes, I have the McMillan HTG on my current Ultimate. I've owned or shot every version they have and I really like the HTG the most, The Lazzeroni Hunter is my second favorite.
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Old 04-15-2014, 06:31 PM
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Re: Ultimate Muzzleloader......

Placed an order for 50 Parker BE 275's and 50 Parker BE 300.s today. This weather ever changes and the mud dry up some, I can stretch this thing out some.
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Old 04-22-2014, 02:29 PM
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Re: Ultimate Muzzleloader......

So I heard rumors that remington bought out Kens company. I was going to order a black widow this week but I saw this:

Looks like it will be available in June and the msrp is $750. Now I don't know what to do. I'd love a ultimate version but I could do a LOT of stuff to this one with the $3000 I'd save by waiting. Any thoughts? Thanks
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Old 04-23-2014, 09:35 AM
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Re: Ultimate Muzzleloader......

I just received the NRA American Hunter & they show it to have a fluted barrel & a MSRP of $1,295.00, either way I am sure going to look into it.
You will not make peace with the Blue Coats, you are free to go.
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Old 04-23-2014, 02:51 PM
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Re: Ultimate Muzzleloader......

Thought it would be a great day, when it turned out a little worse than expected. I went to the club and the drive to the range was closed. I had to make three trips, carrying the rifle and equipment 100 yards to the bench. The road was just to muddy to drive down. It was muddy and with wet sand. It was tough carrying all that through the mud. Anyway after that, I also had to walk back and forth to the backstop to hang targets, through the mud and if it wasn't mud, it was wet sand. Quite the jaunt for an old out of shape fella.

According to the weather cast, it should have been a much better day with the wind. It was much worse then expected and also the direction. It was blowing about 30 from left to right, swirling and coming from the target to the bench.
  • Sustained wind.......... 15 mph
  • Gusts....................... 22 mph
I shot a couple rounds at 200yds to set the custom turret. I needed about 2" left also from my 100yd shooting at home. Then I made the trip to the 400 yard backstop and stapled up a target. Walked back to the bench and settled down a little, then turned the turret to 400yds, loaded it up and started shooting.

Not to shabby for the first 400yd shoot.

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Old 04-23-2014, 08:44 PM
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Re: Ultimate Muzzleloader......


After supper this evening, it was time to clean the rifle. Long story short, I found that the rear scope ring was lose at the mount. It has the Leupold SD bases and rings on it. It appears that the recoil is loosening up those windage screws at the base. I'll try fixing that problem by putting the Leupold QR Cross Lock system on it this weekend.

I got to wondering, how good could that group have been, had the scope not been lose?????
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Old 04-23-2014, 08:57 PM
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Re: Ultimate Muzzleloader......

Need a muzzle loader for a NM elk hunt. Anyone able to chime in with something not too over the top in price?
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