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Savage MLll grouping?Hi

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Old 02-11-2010, 12:15 PM
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Re: Savage MLll grouping?Hi

When the weather gets better in the spring I'll try the Barnes 300 and also try a heavier grn bullet in the PR line up. I have heard about the Barnes you mentioned and will give it a try. Thanks for the input I really appreciate it.
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Old 02-11-2010, 12:25 PM
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Re: Savage MLll grouping?Hi

Originally Posted by ATH View Post
One possibility is that those soft lead bullets don't hold tight in the barrel well and you are getting inconsistent ignition leading to varying velocities. This will show up as vertical stringing as the range increases. Only way to tell for sure is get it over a chrono. Is the group vertical or round?

Overall the PR bullets are felt to be suboptimal choices over smokeless as they don't handle the faster pressure curve of smokeless well and deform. Additionally, shooting .40 bullets in a .50 with smokeless is widely agreed not to work very well.

The 1" groups at 100yds make it curious, but in at least two ways (bullet diameter, material choice) you have the odds stacked against you.
Sorry ATH I didn't mean to ignore your post, from what I'm reading between you and EDGE I just might have to start over with everything. Where I'm at now is based on starting with what Savage recommended in the book and on their CD you get when you buy the gun and all is good when only wanting to shoot 100yds except for the loading part. Will take all info and start with a new plan. Thanks a lot for your input!!
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Old 02-12-2010, 07:43 PM
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Re: Savage MLll grouping?Hi

Ha, no problem, just hope you get it figured out. Edge gave you good direction. If it won't shoot a Barnes, 250gr SW/SST or an XTP I can't imagine it will shoot anything.

I'd play with a few more powders too.
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Old 02-12-2010, 10:20 PM
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Re: Savage MLll grouping?Hi

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I'd play with a few more powders too.

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Old 05-28-2010, 01:48 PM
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Re: Savage MLll grouping?Hi

I am shooting the QT 250 grain bullets with short petal MMP sabots with a mag. sub base, shooting less than 1" at 100 and Less than 3" at 200 with Reloader #7 65 grains. It wallops pretty good but really accurate powder in my Henry ball #61 Savage rifle 50 caliber. Do you shoot when it is hot? Does the barrel get hot, or is the barrel hot when you shoot the 200? Thaes rifles are notorious for accuracy going south when the barrel heats up. The same load shoots VG with the 250 grain 45 cal flex tip bullets, They are nothing more than a Hornady bullet that comes with the sabots at 250 grain. Hornady won't admit it but I have compared them to the 250 with the sabot and they shot the same. I also shoot them in my 460 Encore, it was a blessing when Hornady started selling them in boxes of 50 & 100. As I use to buy the bullets w/sabots. It is much cheaper now. Lou
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