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Unread 08-08-2010, 08:02 PM
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Muzzle loader disapointment

I seen a muzzle loader I like,but they dont make it anymore. Knight master hunter disc. I have a knight Mk 85 Thumbhole I just didnt want to mess with the little caps anymore and I was told by my dealer the conversion kit was a just as much of a pain because you need a tool. He had a master hunter there and I really like the way the bolt work with the disc. He said the company is supposed to start making them again. Does anyone know when?

I looked at a few others, Ultimate, BadBull and they seem real nice. I like the primer shell with Ultimate and didnt like the primer set up on the badbull. I like the .45cal over the 50 (3100fps)( 6,000fpe) Watch their video and wow never seen what look like bone come out of an animal when hit. I thought muzzle brakes on muzzle loaders are the coolest thing since I'm not a fan of recoil.. I wasn't thinking theywould be that much in price. Its a remington rifle with haevy barrel. Come on.

Anyhow I thought maybe of going with the pain in the butt conversion kit for mine ,but I'm wondering is it possible to put a muzzle brake on my mk 85 knight?? Anyone have one put on before??
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    Re: Muzzle loader disapointment

    About the best you can get is the 209 conversion that uses the red full plastic jacket. If you search the internet you may find one. You may need a new bolt also.

    I snatched up a pair of Knight Disc Elites (.45 and .50) about 5 or 6 years ago. I do like them. I need to work up a long range deer load for my .45 cal.
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    Unread 08-08-2010, 10:32 PM
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    Re: Muzzle loader disapointment

    Is it me or the .45cal really the one to get??
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    I do like the .45 cal. It shoots better than my .50. But they were both finicky when developing loads. The BH209 and the 200 gr SST are a great combo. I would not hesitate to kill a deer at 200 yards with it. I keep applying for pronghorn and ibex with muzzleloader here in NM and if I draw, the .45 cal will be with me. I did add a laminated wood stock and a good bedding job. That helped accuracy a lot! When Knight was going under, I bought a second laminated stock for the .50 cal.
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    Hey thank for your info. good hunting. I hope knight starts making rifles again.
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    Go to www.prbullets.com and order the .45 caliber, 195 gr. Dead Center Bullets, add 95-110 grs. of BH209 and you'll have your 200 yard + muzzleloading load for deer. These bullets load very easy when using BH209. I can go 50+ shots without swabbing and the last round loads just like the first. With 777, I can't load the 3rd round without swabbing. The Dead Center bullets are pure lead with a ballistic tip, very flat shooting and the most accurate bullet I've ever shot. I have an Austin-Hallek .45, a Knight Disc Elite .50, MK85 and several others. They all shoot the best with the Dead Center Bullets. I also use CCI magnum 209 primers. prbullets also a variety of stuff you'll be interested in if your into muzzleloading.

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    Go to www.prbullets.com and order the .45 caliber, 195 gr. Dead Center Bullets, add 95-110 grs. of BH209 and you'll have your 200 yard + muzzleloading load for deer. These bullets load very easy when using BH209. I can go 50+ shots without swabbing and the last round loads just like the first. With 777, I can't load the 3rd round without swabbing. The Dead Center bullets are pure lead with a ballistic tip, very flat shooting and the most accurate bullet I've ever shot. I have an Austin-Hallek .45, a Knight Disc Elite .50, MK85 and several others. They all shoot the best with the Dead Center Bullets. I also use CCI magnum 209 primers. prbullets also a variety of stuff you'll be interested in if your into muzzleloading.

    JohnP
    The other option, which costs half as much, is the 200gr Shockwave. While the BC is slightly lower, it can be pushed as fast as you want (3000fps+ in a smokeless one). The Precision Rifle bullets WILL lose accuracy somewhere in the 1800-2000fps range. Push the ML up another 15gr of powder with the 200 Shockwave and you'll outshoot the PR bullet for less money.

    Both perform well terminally. I shot the 195 DC for a couple years, it is a good bullet I just got fed up with the velocity limitation and price.
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