which muzzeloader to buy?

[edge]

If smokeless is legal you can get a Savage ML, OR a Savage centerfire and convert it to a ML in something other than 50 caliber...if legal where you hunt.

BH209 gets very close to Savage velocities and is pretty clean.

edge.

[nate270]

i beleave that the barrel makes all the differance in the world and look for yourself but this is were i got mine 1" Long Range Rifles Replacement Barrels .54 cal

[quigleysharps4570]

Originally Posted by winmagman

If you really want to dump some money into one check these out. Bad Bull Muzzleloaders | Custom Built Long Range Muzzleloaders

Chris

Looks like a modern cartridge rifle...kinda takes away what a traditional muzzleloading rifle is supposed to be. I don't understand why people even bother with them...other than just extending a season.

[peashooter]

Originally Posted by trueblue

If smokeless is legal where you hunt, I wouldn't buy anything but a Savage ML.
I have one and have developed a load w/300gr Barnes original bullets that will shoot MOA or less to 300 yards. They are great muzzleloaders.

I'm shooting the Savage 10ML with 40gr. of Vht. N110 . shoots consistently moa with hornady 250 gr. SST. What powder you using with the 300 gr. Barnes? I can't get AA 5744 to group or generate vbelocities over 1950fps.
peashooter

[edge]

Originally Posted by quigleysharps4570

Looks like a modern cartridge rifle...kinda takes away what a traditional muzzleloading rifle is supposed to be. I don't understand why people even bother with them...other than just extending a season.

IMO, this is Muzzleloader Hunting, and NOT traditional Muzzleloading!
Just as in archery, some folks build their own bows and some folks enjoy compounds!

I think that they all apply in hunting, if they are not for you then stick to what you enjoy.

On other forums I have seen folks complain of smokeless but advocate black powder substitutes. IMO, if it loads from the muzzle then it is a muzzleloader. Enjoy the sport as you see fit

edge.

[esshup]

Originally Posted by peashooter

I'm shooting the Savage 10ML with 40gr. of Vht. N110 . shoots consistently moa with hornady 250 gr. SST. What powder you using with the 300 gr. Barnes? I can't get AA 5744 to group or generate vbelocities over 1950fps.
peashooter

Try 60 grains of H-4198 ignited by 10g of VV N-110 under the 300g bullet. (10 grains of N-110 down the tube first, followed by the H-4198 then the sabot/bullet. It should be good for right around 2450 fps.

[HAWKEYE50ML]

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