Originally Posted by FrontierGander
does the clean bore by chance have any oil/bore butter in it?
If its consistently 4" low, I'd just make up for it and adjust in the field. 100-150 yards, 4" isnt that big of an adjustment.
4" low at 100yds equates to much lower, 8" to 9" lower at 150yds and, that's if he's getting at least 2,000fps. Start with a lower velocity and it will drop considerably more. If he's also shooting 4" to the right, that's now going to equate to 8" to 9" right at 150yds.
IMO its more than enough "adjustment" to NEVER guess that shot
. I'm also of the opinion that if a shooter doesn't ABSOLUTELY KNOW where his/her shot is going to hit, they should NOT be taking that shot. We owe it to the animal we're hunting
I live in a state where there's 700,000 deer hunters, with 24% of them using a muzzleloader as their primary firearm during the regular firearm season, not just the designated muzzleloader season.
That said, it is a known fact with some rifle barrels, it doesn't matter rather they're spick and span clean, with "0" lubricant, they just will not shoot the first shot to POI of shots when fouled. PERIOD. Many shooters have reported this and it doesn't really matter which brand of rifle it may be. Some T/C's, some CVA and some Traditions will not shoot accurately from a clean dry bore. There are some, but a very limited number. I've shot up to 4,000 a year from Encore platform rifles since "97" and never once had one that would shoot the same POI clean as once fouled. My current Pro Hunter, "Bad Medicine" is another example. It shoots 4" high and 2" right with the first shot, second shot drops to 3" high and 1" right and all the others make one quarter size hole. I'm by far a weekend, one month shooter and I will NOT take that shot. If it means fouling the barrel to absolutely know where my bullet is going, that's what I have to do to KNOW and not Kentucky guess.
If you don't know........ never take the shot.