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Old 10-09-2009, 10:08 PM
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Re: Blackhorn 209 new black powder

Im using the CVA Accura Muzzle loader with bh209. I tried using the remington sts primer and the fed fusion primers but have had hang fires continually with both. I went from 110 gr to 95 grains and swab the barrel after a couple rounds. I have been using Hornady 45 cal 300gr xtp mag bullets w/harvester sabots they shoot really good between the hang fires. I bought some Winchester w209 primers tonight. Will see how they work tomorrow.
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Old 10-09-2009, 11:28 PM
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Re: Blackhorn 209 new black powder

Charlie, Blackhorn recommends using CCI209M (magnum) primers to ignite their powder.

As an FYI, I recently tried the IMR White Hots and it shoots great in my CVA.
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Old 10-10-2009, 08:47 AM
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Re: Blackhorn 209 new black powder

I've pretty much given up on Blackhorn in my two Knight LRHs. Too much trouble getting the right load and dealing with hangfires. I shoot an Omega with two pellets, a 285 Barnes boattail and get three inch groups at 200 yds. A friend just picked up a couple jugs of this new blackpowder substitute, BlackMag XP, which guarantees no hangfires. If this works as advertised, I'd suspect many BH209 users will switch. Competition.........it's a good thing. No financial interest in this company so here's the website: Official BlackMag Industries, BlackMag Powder, and Lightning Loads Website
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Old 10-10-2009, 12:16 PM
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Just got done testing my new win primers. They work great! I increased the load to 105 grains and im clover leaf'n the target. Perfect conditions outside to test the muzzleloader, its cold and we got snow last night. I was a little worried at first about this powder but its alot cleaner. I think the results on the target are better than any load I had with 777. The bullet combo is alot cheaper to buy too. A box of 50 bullets 17.99 and the sabots 7.99. $26.oo for 5o bullets is a good deal to me!
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Old 11-22-2009, 07:13 PM
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Re: Blackhorn 209 new black powder

Smokepoler, according to Blackhorn's web site they specifically state that muzzleloading primers are not to be used, only 209 shotshell primers. Apparently 209 muzzleloader primers are not as hot so maybe that's why you're experiencing problems.
I recently got my first ML rifle, a CVA Accura, and it liked the first load tried--85gr of BH209 behind a 230gr Hornady XTP in a black Harvester Crush Rib sabot, ignited with a Winchester 209 shotshell primer. After boresighting the gun, it took exactly 2 shots and 2 moves of the rear sight to have it printing 2.5" high dead center at 50 yards. I then shot twice more at 100 yards and one shot was 3" high dead center, the other was about 3 1/2" high and an inch to the right. This was with open sights. Hopefully it'll be wearing a scope within a week or so to see what it can do.
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Old 11-22-2009, 07:18 PM
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Charlie, that's how I did it. Bought a box of bullets and the package of sabots. It's quite a bit cheaper to "roll your own" rather than go buy pre-saboted bullets. With 85 gr of BH209 it's about $1 per round fired, cheaper if you can pick up a partial box of bullets from someone who is selling some they can't use like I did. Glad to hear you figured out the primer problem.
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Old 11-22-2009, 11:00 PM
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Re: Blackhorn 209 new black powder

Leadhead, tried all the standard and mag primers, finally settled on the Federal 209s since they are supposed to be the hottest. Am using my Omega with T7 and T7 primers, 3 inch groups at 200 yds. Good enough for deer season. Will get back to the Knight after the season is over. Going to try that new black powder substitute. Since my last post, I did do some experimenting and came up with weighing the loads in two grain increments. Found a lot of variations in accuracy, seemed the lighter loads were the most accurate. Cheers, SP
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