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Old 12-17-2010, 12:53 PM
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Re: Blackhorn 209 new black powder

I live in Alabama and up until a few years ago, we didn't have a separate season for muzzleloaders. But when it did open up, we get 5 days right before gun season starts, I went to BassPro and bought and bought the cheapest muzzleloader they had. I didn't want to spend a fortune only to find out that I hated muzzleloaders. I got a Traditions break action rifle in a package with a scope, hard case and a few other items for $200.00. I researched powders and after my friends experience with triple seven decided to go with the Blackhorn 209 powder. I can say that everything they say about it is true. That cheap muzzleloader with a 300gr hornady low drag bullet/sabot will print 1 1/4" to 1 1/2" groups at 100yds with 105 grains of Blackhorn 209 and no deer I've shot with it has been able to handle it. My longest shot to date with it was at 188 yds, but I draw the line at 200 yds with it.

I can shoot 10 -12 times without cleaning, and only clean just to make it easier to load, although i can still load it after shooting that many times. I only wish i had bought a nicer gun because i'm hooked on muzzleloading now. But it is hard to get rid of a gun that shoots that good.

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Old 12-18-2010, 03:38 PM
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Re: Blackhorn 209 new black powder

Just read on an other forum that New Mexico state ban the use of BH209 in muzzleloader hunting.Reason is that they class it as a Smokeless powder substitute and not a Blackpowder substitute.
Surely other states will follow New Mexico state.
Hope they clearify if it indeed a Smokeless powder sub.or a Black powder sub.
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Old 12-18-2010, 06:30 PM
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Re: Blackhorn 209 new black powder

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Just read on an other forum that New Mexico state ban the use of BH209 in muzzleloader hunting.Reason is that they class it as a Smokeless powder substitute and not a Blackpowder substitute.
Surely other states will follow New Mexico state.
Hope they clearify if it indeed a Smokeless powder sub.or a Black powder sub.
Moose1
Do you have a link to that forum or better yet the regulation? Until I see it on an official state website, I'd never take anything regulatory on a forum as gospel.
SP
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Old 12-18-2010, 11:25 PM
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Re: Blackhorn 209 new black powder

http://www.wildlife.state.nm.us/publ..._Optimized.pdf
page 6 of 64;
Definitions and terms: muzzleloader
Anyone planning to hunt in New Mexico next year during their muzzleloader seasons, better read this. The New Mexico proclamation for 2011 is out and on page 6 it states:

Quote:Muzzleloader
Includes rifles and shotguns in which the charge and projectile
are loaded through the muzzle. Only black powder, Pyrodex
or an equivalent substitute may be used. Smokeless
powder, including “Blackhorn 209” powder is illegal. Legal
muzzleloading shotguns are those capable of being fi red from
the shoulder only. Muzzleloaders may use in-line ignition,
pelleted powder, sabots, belted bullets and scopes. See
Restricted Muzzleloader, next column.
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Old 12-19-2010, 07:32 AM
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Re: Blackhorn 209 new black powder

Thanks, Moose1. Looks like the micromanaging, rule by minority mindset has hit the game commision of this state. I guess they want hunters to wound more animals than they kill. Cancel my out of state, money spending, tourist dollars for NM this year, thank you. I'll take them someplace where I'm welcome. SP
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Old 12-19-2010, 07:55 AM
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Re: Blackhorn 209 new black powder

IT's a contry debate.Majority of hunters hunt with BH209.
BH209 is on a line between a Black powder sub and Smokeless sub.
Hope that it will be on the hunter's side.
Just an action in Court could define where that substitute powder stand.
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Old 12-19-2010, 08:42 AM
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IT's a contry debate.Majority of hunters hunt with BH209.
BH209 is on a line between a Black powder sub and Smokeless sub.
Hope that it will be on the hunter's side.
Just an action in Court could define where that substitute powder stand.
Moose1
Yep, and it looks like the ones that want us to wear buckskin jackets and coonskin caps have won out over those that wear fluorescent orange. All I can says is I'm thankful I live in a state with more enlightened, intelligent game commissioners. My Savage smokeless is still a one shot, make it count muzzleloader and I'd rather see a hunter with that in his hand than some old scattergun pattern flintlock just to be politically correct. But as they say YMMV.
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