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Old 12-01-2010, 08:37 PM
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I just realized that I directed my question to smokepoler when it should have been bowhunthard.
You mention that you have 19" of drop at 200 yards. That seems a bit much; at what range are you zero'd?
Zero @ 100 yds., 19.18" drop @ 200 yds. I'm shooting a relatively low velocity tho. I'm not shooting really far though, 300 yds. max. 67.27" drop @ 300 yds. I could realistically bump up the velocity and still obtain reasonable accuracy, but this is the absolute sweet spot for accuracy.
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Old 12-05-2010, 11:33 AM
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WRG or bowhunthard or anyone else that could be of some help. Im wondering what would cause a super sweet half inch group @ 100yds to open up to just over 2 inch at same range? My load- 120gr Blackhorn TC shockwave 200gr, winchester 209, TC prohunter. I did not change my load at all cuz I thought three shots cutting half inch holes was purdy darned good. Shot that well last year and the start of this year too, only when I took it out to double check my zero for the ML season did it change. It was a lot colder the last time too. I found an average 120 gr (volume) comes out to about 88gr wieghed on my scale. Could the cold affect the plastic sabots and not be as plyabe or load pressure. Also I noticed that the new boxes of sabots have a lighter color of blue than the old ones, could this be a problem too? Could my BH209 be getting old? Or could it be how tight I pack the bullet in the barrel? Thanks for any help, Meatyrem
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Old 12-05-2010, 11:42 AM
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WRG or bowhunthard or anyone else that could be of some help. Im wondering what would cause a super sweet half inch group @ 100yds to open up to just over 2 inch at same range? My load- 120gr Blackhorn TC shockwave 200gr, winchester 209, TC prohunter. I did not change my load at all cuz I thought three shots cutting half inch holes was purdy darned good. Shot that well last year and the start of this year too, only when I took it out to double check my zero for the ML season did it change. It was a lot colder the last time too. I found an average 120 gr (volume) comes out to about 88gr wieghed on my scale. Could the cold affect the plastic sabots and not be as plyabe or load pressure. Also I noticed that the new boxes of sabots have a lighter color of blue than the old ones, could this be a problem too? Could my BH209 be getting old? Or could it be how tight I pack the bullet in the barrel? Thanks for any help, Meatyrem
I would check all scope mounts and screws that hold the gun to the stock first. Also, what kind of scope? MLs don't like cheap scopes.
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Old 12-05-2010, 12:01 PM
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Smokepoler; I have the leupold ultimate slam 3-9x40 on leupold mounts and rings. And eerything was tightened with locktite too.
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Smokepoler; I have the leupold ultimate slam 3-9x40 on leupold mounts and rings. And eerything was tightened with locktite too.
No questions on that setup. In fact, I'm using the same scope on my Knight. The only other things I can think of would be the age of the powder and the primers. I use the T7 pellets & found that old pellets don't shoot the same as fresh ones. Whether or not that's the case with BH209, I don't know. Might be worth a try to use a new batch of powder & primers & see if your results improve. Your reference to the sabot material being different might be a factor also. A call to TC tech support may clear up that issue if in fact they are using a different, softer material.
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yes, everything is snug too.
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The powder and the primers are what I used earlier this season and had no problems then. Maybe I started loading it tighter with more pressure as Im seating the bullet, as opposed to just stopping with the bullet snugging into the powder. I also swab the barrel after every shot just as I did when I was using t7. Three t7 pellets and 200gr shockwave win 209 was getting 1.5" groups@ 100 with an old encore. I shot my PH all last year getting .5" holes and the begining of this year too. I dont think a change in20 deg or so would change anything. Im thinking inconsistant seating pressure or the new (or at least looks different plastic sabots) may be it.
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