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Old 11-25-2010, 06:40 AM
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I have shot BH209 for a year now, and started experimenting with loads, bullets, and primers again. I got the Omega .50 shooting better than it ever has before. I'm now using 80 gr. (by volume) of BH209, the Hornady SST with the low drag (red) sabot, and the CCI shotgun 209 primers. The gun is now shooting into one ragged hole @ 100 yds., and about 1-1/8" @ 200 yds. Velocity on this load was chronyed @ 1560 fps with an extreme spread of 8 fps.

Why to shoot BH209? There is absolutely no cleaning between shots, the consistency is awesome (extreme velocity spread for 5 shots is ONLY 8 fps!), it cleans up extremely easy, and the price is ok. BH209 is a higher velocity per volume to Triple 7, so 120 gr. of BH209 is equivalent pressure-wise to 150 gr. of Triple 7, although the velocity is higher. Therefore, you also get more loads from the same mass weight of BH209 than Triple 7 (especially than the pellets). It is a bit more expensive than a 1 lb. container of Triple 7 FFG though, but the benefits are worth it. (You could also ask yourself the question of "Why buy a custom gun when you can just buy a factory model for cheaper lol?")
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Old 11-25-2010, 09:26 AM
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bowhunthard, That is some great accuracy. How about the knockdown power, bullet drop and wind deflection at the 200 yd mark? Heavy bullets lose that energy a lot quicker than the lightweight stuff and that's about 300 fps less than the 285 barnes I am shooting with two T7 pellets. For field use I prefer the pellets which are giving me only slightly less accuracy than your results. Good enough for deer out to 250 which is my personal limit. I'd say the cleanliness aspect only applies to range shooting as it can get dirty real fast with the T7 or Pyrodex. Hunting's usually a one shot deal, retrieve, and go home & clean the gun. It all comes down to what's good for paper isn't necessarily good for hunting but if it suits your requirements, and you're getting good clean kills at the distances you shoot, you've hit the bullseye. Good Luck this season! Smokepoler
p.s. love the NJ reference. I'm across the river in DE.
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Old 11-25-2010, 12:12 PM
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Re: Blackhorn 209 new black powder

Smokepoler, at what range do you have your Omega zeroed, and how much does it drop at the noted 200 yards?
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Old 11-25-2010, 02:01 PM
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Leadhead, I have it zeroed at 100 yds. I have the Nikon Omega muzzleloader scope with the BDC crosshairs. Set at 9X, I use the third ring for 200 yds, which is not the way it is supposed to work. The BDC is designed to be used with three pellets and a 250 gr slug. It's been a few years since I set it up but nine inches low at 200 with a 100 yd zero comes to mind. Barnes puts in a ballistic chart with their sabot/bullet combination packages with different pellet and powder loads. That info would probably get you in the ball park for holdover figures. I've heard of some hunters who are using a straight duplex just hold the crosshairs at the deer's back (provided they are zeroed at 100) & that has worked well for them. In my Omega, I've found that T7 two pellets give 100 percent better accuracy regardless of the bullet/sabot weight. Another data point, one of my buds just purchased a T/C Omega and is having great accuracy with 2 T7 pellets, T7 primer and the T/C 250 gr. shockwave. With less than ten rounds through it, he is shooting 3 shot, cloverleaf groups at 100. Haven't been to the 200 yd. range yet to check for drop & aiming point but he's more of a close range guy. Me, I like the longer range stuff and the 285 gr boattail really hammers them. smokepoler
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Old 11-25-2010, 02:06 PM
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Re: Blackhorn 209 new black powder

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Smokepoler, at what range do you have your Omega zeroed, and how much does it drop at the noted 200 yards?

A little web searching and came up with this:

http://www.barnesbullets.com/images/...loaderData.pdf

The packaged chart I think has a little more detail.

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Old 11-29-2010, 05:15 PM
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bowhunthard, That is some great accuracy. How about the knockdown power, bullet drop and wind deflection at the 200 yd mark? Heavy bullets lose that energy a lot quicker than the lightweight stuff and that's about 300 fps less than the 285 barnes I am shooting with two T7 pellets. For field use I prefer the pellets which are giving me only slightly less accuracy than your results. Good enough for deer out to 250 which is my personal limit. I'd say the cleanliness aspect only applies to range shooting as it can get dirty real fast with the T7 or Pyrodex. Hunting's usually a one shot deal, retrieve, and go home & clean the gun. It all comes down to what's good for paper isn't necessarily good for hunting but if it suits your requirements, and you're getting good clean kills at the distances you shoot, you've hit the bullseye. Good Luck this season! Smokepoler
p.s. love the NJ reference. I'm across the river in DE.

About 19" drop @ 200 yds., with a 2" deflection with a 5mph full value crosswind. 532 ft/lbs @ 300 yds. So plenty for what I need it to do lol .
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Old 11-30-2010, 10:56 PM
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Re: Blackhorn 209 new black powder

I just realized that I directed my question to smokepoler when it should have been bowhunthard.
You mention that you have 19" of drop at 200 yards. That seems a bit much; at what range are you zero'd?
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