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Rimfire advice. .17 choices/22 choices

 
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Old 01-27-2013, 10:56 PM
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Re: Rimfire advice. .17 choices/22 choices

SHOOTERS: Have you checked the action bedding and where the barrel is contacting the stock barrel channel ? You dident say what cartridge your rifle is chambered for but is it a 22 WMR ? My 22 WMR and 22 Hornet are the least accurate rifles that I own. Most rifles that shoot small groups at 50 yards will also see groups 2 times the size at 100 yards . Low velocity bullets will also suffer wind drift.
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Old 01-27-2013, 11:25 PM
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Re: Rimfire advice. .17 choices/22 choices

Its a 22 WMR. Only checked the barrel as far as contact goes, and yes it was up agains the one side. I pulled it off and free'd up the barrel. Didnt really change anything. As far as that, I didn't do anything else. Its probably about as good as its gonna get I would guess. The wind was dead calm each day we shot it. None at all.



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SHOOTERS: Have you checked the action bedding and where the barrel is contacting the stock barrel channel ? You dident say what cartridge your rifle is chambered for but is it a 22 WMR ? My 22 WMR and 22 Hornet are the least accurate rifles that I own. Most rifles that shoot small groups at 50 yards will also see groups 2 times the size at 100 yards . Low velocity bullets will also suffer wind drift.
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Old 01-28-2013, 11:49 AM
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Re: Rimfire advice. .17 choices/22 choices

I'm a huge coyote hunter and I'm looking for a 22mag I use a 12g 3/12 shot right now what do u think
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Old 01-31-2013, 12:32 AM
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Re: Rimfire advice. .17 choices/22 choices

I have both a Savage 93BTVS and a CZ 452--both in 17HMR. I can honestly say that for out-of-box rifles both of these shoot very well. The 17 HMR is amazing in that regard. As a cartridge it just seems to be inherently accurate. Both my CZ and Savage will commonly shoot 5 shot groups under an inch @ 100 yds. The Savage really shoots best with 20 gr bullets. The CZ doesn't seem to care. I believe that you would need head shots with this caliber to reliably anchor a 'coon. I've shot quite a few yellow-bellied Marmots and the .17 doesn't hit them as hard as a .22WMR. However, the .17 is consistently more accurate. the new .17 Winchester Super Mag is interesting but I don't like the ammo cost. It would definitely have more energy than the .22 wmr and probably be more accurate to boot.

Shooters: Concerning your .22 WMR inaccuracy, I would try several types of ammo. (You probably already did). Friends of mine have found quite a variation in accuracy from different ammo. I know that the 30gr bullets don't shoot well while the 40 gr do nicely. I've always felt that the .22 WMR suffers from a lack of real precision ammo. With a .22 Long rifleyou can buy some really good target ammo and really tighten up the groups.

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Old 02-05-2013, 12:18 AM
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Re: Rimfire advice. .17 choices/22 choices

I bought a Savage 17HMR to see if I like the cartridge, and yes I like it very much. Then I sold it and bought another Cooper so I could have 1/2 MOA accuracy in a well built rifle. The Savage would have been fine if it shot well. I have no use for half-assed accuracy. Get a good one the first time and save yourself the frustration of trying to make a cheap rifle shoot well. I would not hesitate to use the HMR for head shots on coons. For the ranges you stated, it will need to be accurate... and I would suggest using the Hornady 20 gr. xtp bullets. They are tough enough to give superior penetration along with good expansion.
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Old 02-05-2013, 10:00 AM
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Re: Rimfire advice. .17 choices/22 choices

Sometimes you just get a reeeeally good shooting gun.

Albeit this is probably average for a Cooper, but don't knock Savage.
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Old 02-05-2013, 10:08 AM
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Re: Rimfire advice. .17 choices/22 choices

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I'm a huge coyote hunter and I'm looking for a 22mag I use a 12g 3/12 shot right now what do u think
Any of the guns mentioned (Anzchutz, CZ, Savage, Cooper, even Marlin) will do just fine, so buy the best your budget will allow, and start nailing coyotes with it.

I killed quite a few few coyotes with the .22 Mag, and same as with any other hunting, SHOT PLACEMENT is what counts. You don't need to do headshots, but if you're confident enough to, go ahead. I always shot for the lungs.

For coyotes, it's a good idea to stick to the standard loads. I found the best was the old Winchester 40 grain JHP. The only light load I'd feel confident to shoot for coyotes is the 33 grain Remington Premier Accutip- it's the finest quality rimfire ammo I've ever shot. Keep your shots to 150 yards maximum.
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