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Old 01-21-2013, 12:02 AM
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Rimfire advice. .17 choices/22 choices

Fellas. I know very little about Rimfire rifles. Here is what I'm needing. Accuracy is the number 1 most important thing I'm after. Looking for a coon rifle. I am realy lost on .22 mag, .17HMR, or some of the new .17's that are comming out. I'm willing to wait if it's in my best intrest as far as seeing what this new .17 Win mag is....I believe thats what it is, or the .17 Hornet. I would like to be able to head shoot coons from around 150 yards and closer....conditions permitting and shooter permitting, all the time everytime, and with not too much pelt damage if possible. I've shot other .17's and .22 LR's and accuracy wasn't that great. What are my options, and what should I look for or purchase? I'll reload if need be. I've tried to do my homework on this issue, but can't seem to find what I'm looking for. These coons that we go after like to run back down thier holes when we try to get closer that 100 yards. My Ruger 10/22 isn't all that great at 100 yards. Anyway, thanks for the help.

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Old 01-21-2013, 06:21 PM
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Re: Rimfire advice. .17 choices/22 choices

The 17hmr has a very good accuracy record at 100 yards, and it shouldn't drop too much out to 150 yards. That said, you may be better off with a small centerfire if you are going to regularly be trying 150 yard headshots.
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Old 01-21-2013, 09:48 PM
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Well, just for example here. A Cooper. 17HMR is $1700. It will make 1 hole for a five shot group. How much of a difference between that Cooper and a factory Savage HMR will there be at 100 yards.....on average? What Im asking is, knowing that Savages are known for accuracy right out of the box, would it be worth spending the money on the guaranteed accuracy of the Cooper, or is there going to be very little difference at 100 yards between the Cooper and the Savage? Most shots will be under 150 yards. I aslo realize that a $1700 Coon gun is very expensive, but I dont want to be out there cussing and swearing all night because my $300 .17 wont shoot.

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Old 01-22-2013, 09:03 AM
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Re: Rimfire advice. .17 choices/22 choices

Buy a CZ 452 or 455 in 17HMR. They shoot better than Rugers or Savages, and the build quality is better. They fall somewhere between the Cooper and the Savage. The 17HMR will be just fine for coons. You can take yotes and foxes (I'd keep shots to 50yds ish) with the 17 as well. The newer 17s are interesting, but I'd wait a couple years and see how they field before I'd pick one up.
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Old 01-22-2013, 11:44 AM
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Re: Rimfire advice. .17 choices/22 choices

Yea, I have both a CZ 452 and a Savage 93 in the .22 mag and the accurcy is
the same with both of them, will shoot into 1" groups ez at 100 yards.
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Old 01-27-2013, 08:42 AM
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Re: Rimfire advice. .17 choices/22 choices

I have tryed out a Anschutz 1710 Cal 22 RF, Kimber 82 Cal 22 Hornet, Cooper 57M LVT Cal 17HM2 and 17 HMR , Rem 700 Cal 17 Fireball and 221 Fireball. When one becomes available I m going to get a CZ Cal 17 Hornet. It takes a lot of ammo shooting prairie dogs and at times I dont feel like reloading ammo. The new Winchester 17 Super Mag rimfire that fires a 20 Gr bullet at 3000 ft/sec MV looks good to me. Small targets require accurate rifles that will for rimfire shoot one inch or smaller 100 yard five shot groups and center fire 3/4 inch or less five shot 100 yard groups. For what you wont to do get a 17 Hornet CZ rifle. If you reload ammo you may get the CZ to shoot some 1/2 inch 100 yard groups when shooting off a bench rest. While hunting the bullet drop , range yard differences ,and varring wind makes a head shot at times a little tricky. Should some company come out with a Winchester 17 SM rimfire bolt action repeter that shoots 3/4 in 100 yard groups it would be ideal to use, fat chance...
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Old 01-27-2013, 09:58 AM
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Re: Rimfire advice. .17 choices/22 choices

Well I have always been a huge fan of the Savages due to their accuracy. So, i purchased the Savage 93 stainless in the heavy barrel. Im not sure if Im happy with it or not. It will punch the same hole all day long at fifty yards. No big deal, most rifles and calibers will. When shooting at 100, its a little different. I have seriously bought damn near everything grain weight bullet and manufacturer's bullet for it. By the way, I have a Leupold VX3 on it. So, shooting at 100, the CCI V max, and the Hornady V max shoot the same. Im pretty sure that CCI makes both. Anyhow, accuracy is all over the place. Get 2 that will touch, and the other 3 will be 2.5 inches here, and 2 inches there. This is the same with shooting most every other bullet and weight. The 2 that shoot the best are the 30 gr Speer TNT and the 40 grain fed full metal jacket. They will hold about an 1.5 inch group, but there is usually a flyer or two. What gives? The gun has even been shot a few times by our local bench rest shooter who is very good and its really no different for him either. He kinda smiled and said the rifle is only as good as the ammo you shoot and it was shooting your typical rimfire ammo. He said that most that tell you there shooting. 5 inch groups from a rimfire are not completely honest. So, am I expecting too much from this rifle, or should it shoot better than what I would consider a silver dollar at 100 yards? BTY, mounts and scope have been re-checked, and we even cleaned it......who cleans a. 22?......ha ha
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