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Unread 02-12-2013, 06:36 PM
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Re: rifles for pd shooting

You can shot PD's with about anything under the sun, but I will throw in my 2 cents. your 204 is optimal, your 17 HMR will get the job done depending on the distance. ( the PD's I shoot have a avg. distance of 200+ yrads after the first CRACK" of a rifle. I would consider a .17 Fireball or .17 Rem, .223 is another good choice. the 22-250 is a very fine caliber, but on a PD gun I would install a break, heck even on a .223 I would, and do. For me shooting PD's without seeing the HIT reduces the FUN factor. If your going to start reloading consider a slow twist 20 so you can shoot the 39gr+.

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Unread 02-13-2013, 06:36 AM
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I started reloading in 1952 to be able to shoot more and find a more accurate cartridge for my 270 Win. rifle. Factory ammo is far more accurate now then it was back then . I got a Anschultz 22 RF rifle and a Sako 222 Rem rifle in 1956 that I used for p dog shooting. The 222 Rem was an accurate rifle and even more so with reloaded ammo. Try some different brands of ammo to find out what your 17 HMR likes and then get a bunch of it with the same lot number . Try some 39 and 40 grain bullets in your .204 . I dont know why but I get smaller groups with the 39 grain bullets . The factory ammo shooting the 32 Gr bullet is more accurate than the 40 grain in my rifle. A accurate p dog rifle needs a top quality scope site . Iv used 6.5-20 X AO Leupold scopes on two of my old p dog rifles but the feild of view is smaller than I like when set at 20 X so most of the time they are set at 18 X. I have put 6-18 X AO scopes on my newer centerfire varmint rifles. Do all of your reloaded ammo tests fireing off a bench rest at 100 yards . After finding a load you like set up targets at 200, 250, 300, and 350 yards to see what you rifles are doing and adjust the sites for the best point blank range for you.
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Unread 02-14-2013, 09:04 AM
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Re: rifles for pd shooting

I have my mind set on a savage model 12 varmint low pro in 22-250 but I could use some advice on the twist as it comes in either a 9 or 12 twist. If I go with a 9 twist (if I can find one) would I be limited to only the heavier pills? I guess I would be limited to mainly 55 grain and over. Looking to get better skills at 400 to 600 yards on paper & parrie dogs.
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Unread 02-14-2013, 04:41 PM
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Re: rifles for pd shooting

The 9 twist will throw a 40 grainer but a 12 twist will not stableize a 75 grain bullet= A 9 twist is a lot more versitile if you reload!
I've taken the 40 Vmax out to 675 yards out of a 223 but its a lot easier to get to 750yards with the 75 grain Amax in front of the 22-250!
"Make everything as simple as possible, but not simpler." -Albert Einstein (1879-1955)
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Unread 02-15-2013, 11:14 AM
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Re: rifles for pd shooting

MachV thanks for your info on barrel twist. I have been leaning toward the 9 twist but wanted more input before I spent the money & wasnt happy with what I got. I dont see shooting anything less than 45 grain in the 22-250 so if it wont over stabilize that I'll be happy. Shortly after I got my CZ 527 in 204 it got to cold to shoot much so I have about 70 rounds thru it now. New to reloading I have done my first for the 204 & used 27.5 g of W748 with a 39g sierra blitzking using once fired hornady brass & it improved what I can do out to 275 yards. Havent tried out further yet. I have a Nikon monarch 5.5-16.5x44 on my 204 & have a monarch 4-16x42 waiting for my 250. Maybe not enough scope for the job. Guess I'll find out. Hope the weather warms up.
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Unread 02-18-2013, 04:06 PM
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Re: rifles for pd shooting

Originally Posted by totall View Post
I know alot of guys have multipal rifles of the same caliber but there are to many guns I would like for me to do that but thats just me. However sometimes its better to not have what you want then to have what you dont want. I threw the 223/ 22-250 around for a long time and it seems for whatever reason Im stuck on the 250. Being as how the Tikka I would like to have is about impossible to find guess it will be a savage with a 12 twist. Until I can find the Tikka then I guess I will own that to. Dont tell my wife I said that.

If you're looking for a Tikka varmint in 22-250 there are 2 at Hart Brothers in Mason City, IA 641-903-0024 one is used and one is new. Tikka has a 1-14 twist in the 22-250.
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Unread 02-23-2013, 10:15 PM
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Re: rifles for pd shooting

We use 22-250 Savage's with 1-12 twist and don't let them cool until we are tired. Both my brother and I shot 585 rounds in one day same gun and when we did cool the barrel it was with ice water on a towel thrown over the barrel for couple of minutes.
I will shot 50 rounds straight then stop to get new box of shells and start again. The only rifle I let cool is my 22-243 A.I. running 75 gr A-Max's at 3600 fps. I will stop after 20 or so.
I have yet to burn out a barrel in one day and have been trying since 1996 and only missed two seasons. I load to the max....22-250 40 V-Max 41.5 grs varget, a 22-250 A.I. 42 grs H414, 22-243 A.I. 47.5 gr RL 22 or 4831SC.

My first savage 22-250 barrel was new in 1996 and died 2001 with 7214 rounds shot before it would key hole @ 100 yds.
My first 22-243 A.I. in 2001 lasted 2545 rounds and replaced with another in 2007.
My 22-250 A.I. first barrel sold at 2800 rounds and was going strong, my 22-250 A.I. now is a ER Shaw barrel and has 2200 rounds and still shoots fine.

To do it all over I would have a great 22 mag, 22-250 fast twist and 22-250 slow twist, then later if you want to shoot beyound the 800 yds or so get something bigger.

22-250 personal record 919 yds
22-243 AI personal record 1151 yds and a hit but not kill at 1407 yds.
.260 123 A-Max 1580 yds
All were prairie dogs. All rifles are Savage custom built.
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