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01-22-2012, 10:54 PM
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Optimum Length (Not what you think)
I am on the search for an AR-15 varmint/target rifle that I would be shooting out to about ~500yds. I was wondering what the optimum barrel length would be and what contour barrel as well. I know a heavy-contour varmint barrel would be ideal but I'm not going to be sending tons of rounds down range either though.
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01-23-2012, 12:40 AM
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18-20" should be fine. If you handload, you probably don't need a bull barrel to get sub-1"" 5-shot groups- look at government contour. White Oak Armament makes some nice uppers for varmint/target use. They are heavy, though. Without handloading, you can probably get by with an HBAR contour.
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01-23-2012, 02:59 PM
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Re: Optimum Length (Not what you think)
Optimum length in relation to what? Accuracy? or FPS? Barrel length has little to no effect on accuracy. FPS is a different story, you need a barrel long enough to get full powder burn before the bullet leaves the muzzle. I have been told by many smiths that the best length for a .223 case is around 22"-24" for the highest velocity.
Contour effects the barrels harmonics which effects accuracy, it also helps dissipate heat which leads to erosion of the throat and barrel. I have light barrel rigs that shoot lights out for the first few shots and then have a tendency to open up more quickly then my heavy or sport weight rigs
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01-31-2012, 05:41 AM
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Re: Optimum Length (Not what you think)
RRA 24" 1-8 twist varmint. Unbelievable accurate. I load 60 gr Vmax & Varget under .25" at 100 yds. This works for me...
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02-02-2012, 07:58 PM
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Re: Optimum Length (Not what you think)
I have a yankee hill machine black diamond specter, barrel is only 16" with 1/9" rifling but, shooting good ammo horandy 55gr v-max i get one ragged hole at 100yd and 3/4-1" groups at 200yd. I haven't shot it past 400 but at that range it's well within minute of coyote, I can hit standard size clay pigeons at that distance with boring regularity.
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03-19-2012, 02:48 AM
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Re: Optimum Length (Not what you think)
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Originally Posted by tdregs13
I am on the search for an AR-15 varmint/target rifle that I would be shooting out to about ~500yds. I was wondering what the optimum barrel length would be and what contour barrel as well. I know a heavy-contour varmint barrel would be ideal but I'm not going to be sending tons of rounds down range either though.
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Optimal barrel length will depend on powder burn rate.
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.308 Howa 1500, 24" varmint barrel, Harris bipod Bell & Carlson MkII tactical stock. 4-14x50 tactical scope from Wonder Optics.
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06-10-2012, 04:24 AM
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depends...... not the diapers
I have a 26 in 1-9 ss barrel from mcgowen barrels and i love the length. its .8 contour and end with a target crown. I'm not sure if what i'm about to say is right so correct me if i'm wrong but i feel that the longer barrel has allowed me the flexibility of shooting slightly heavier bullets due to the bullet having slightly more time in contact with the rifling. lately i've been playing with 69 and 75 grain sierras as well as 68gr hornady match bullets and when i loaded them nice and tight to the lands i was amazed with the results. single holes at 100 and cloverleafs at 200 easy. thats of course if im able to do it that day. ( heart beat in the scope seams to be my major problem)
as for the coutour. does it look good? and is it too heavy? i love my heavy barrel and before i had it my sport barrel was a tac driver too. it did open up when it got hot and so far my heavy barrel has been amazing and keeping accuracy in the heat. Fluting should help but lets be honest. it looks badass. i wish i would have got it done when i ordered my barrel.
i just got some 75 gr amaxs finally so i hope they do as well as the match bullets. One thing that was really weird. since i started seating my bullets long. ( 2.3 for the hpbt match) ive had insane consistancy even between the loads and bullets. the 75s were within an inch of the 68s and same with the 69s.
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