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Old 12-08-2011, 05:07 PM
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Re: Going on first Prairie Dog hunt 2012

Hey Thanks , that is great idea on the shipping your ammo and guns to yourself in care of sporting goods store. If i could fly i know i couldnt take everything i need like if i drove , but we are talking atleast 1500 miles each way that is 4 days on road that is lot of hunting time i could be doing if already at place. It would be nice to meet with someone that is already familiar with hunting prairie dogs and the places to hunt . Maybe something will come between now and then .... Thanks Again , stay in touch maybe we can do some shooting sometime ... Ricky in Kentucky
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Old 12-09-2011, 04:54 AM
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Thank You S. Bruce I didnt mean to open up a can of worms LOL, but yes you were a lot of help, The recoil rifle would be a problem especially after shooting 300 rounds in a day , I am really looking at the .223 in the new Savage LRPV , I have the Ruger no1 V in .243 . I am really loooking forward to this trip , we are looking at panhandle of Texas really good , just because of distance . but dont know about PD population ?
The 223 and 243 are both good choices in caliber. I've shot dogs with both.
Most serious doggers (myself included) load their own ammo for not only best accuracy, but lower cost.

The 243 is definately cheaper to load your own, but some 223 is a good deal and hard to beat their prices by handloading.

Black Hills is a good brand to try, I've used it myself in my AR's.
Cabelas sells it, so does Midway. You might also call First Stop Guns (605) 341-5211.........they stock alot of it and might ship you whatever you want.

UltraMax also is located in Rapid City, SD and they make alot of 223 ammo. They seem to be one of the most affordable brands out there. Midway and Cabelas also sell it, I think Natchez does too.

If you want to shoot factory ammo in the 223, you might try a box or two of both BH and Ultramaxs' stuff and see which shoots the best groups in your rifle.......then buy a bunch. You're looking for the tightest groups possible at 200 to 300 yds. The status quo "1/2 minute" rifle will struggle when the dogs get beyond 400 yds.

Use the 243 if it's windy, you'll know when it's too windy for the little 223, when it's taking 4 shots per dog just to get the wind figured out. You may not get to experience that in Texas, but it's not uncommon to have to shoot in 15-20 mph winds in Wyoming and South Dakota. The 223 with "normal" weight bullets will blow off about 1" at 300 yds for every 1 mph of wind. If we misjudge the wind by only 2mph, that's very likely a miss.........................the 243 with 100-107 grn bullets is only blown off about 1/2" for every 1mph at 300 yds...........twice as good in the wind is another way to look at it.

I'd say the average dog is about 3" wide when standing upright. Some are only 2", others are 5", but 3" is a good average to use.

Now you're beginning to see how a gun that shoots 2" groups, and is blown off course 2 more inches really easy by a measly 2mph wind, makes it tough to hit a 3" wide dog at 400 yds............that's exactly why I say "use the ammo that shoots the smallest groups at 200 or 300 yds"

Good Luck, Happy to try and answer any questions regarding prarie dog shooting. It just might take me a while to get back with you.
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Old 12-10-2011, 08:53 PM
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Re: Going on first Prairie Dog hunt 2012

You need at least two rifles for the trip...223 & 6BR will work just fine...Savage of couse
These two are very accurate....economical to shoot...26 grs powder in 223...31 in the BR
Heavy is good...my p/dog rigs are Savage s/shots with Pac Nor tubes....average from 14# to nearly 19#...handloading your ammo is the only way...especially with 2-300 rd mornings....rimfires do not interest me much...I do shoot a 17 M2 once or twice a summer...only in a very infested need to remove field(s)...my shooting will range from 300-1000 yrds with appropiate calibers....20 Vartarg up to 6.5x55...my newest barrel being built is a 9 twist 20 BR...shooting the super flat .381 BC 55's...
Once you shoot p/dogs it gets addicting...I've been at it 16 yrs or so pretty steady...always look forward to it every summer...remember some states have a 'season'..usually April 15 thru June 15 th is closed on public land....as in Utah...you have plenty of time to gather gear...
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Old 12-10-2011, 09:04 PM
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Re: Going on first Prairie Dog hunt 2012

Once dialed in....keep shootin'

20 Vartarg @ 520 yds.......

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Old 12-10-2011, 10:15 PM
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Re: Going on first Prairie Dog hunt 2012

A .223 is always a good bet in the PD field. A buddy of mine buys 50gr Federal HP's @ $86.00 for 200 at wally world. If your going to reload then there are many other great calibers. In factory rigs a .204 is hard to beat for lack of recoil and performs very close to a 22-250 out to 500 yards. The .221 Fireball and 17 Fireball are also nice PD rounds, they just don't have the reach and work better for a 2nd rifle. Part of the joy in PD's is watching the hit so my PD guns are heavy or wear muzzle breaks. I have set fields I hunt and most of it is done via shooting mat, elbow pads and bi-pod. I will also use a Coyote Jake's bench and Leica CRF when in the PD field. Make sure you get some trigger time and know your rifle and round combo otherwise your just burning $$ with every shot. Most shots are at least 200 yards on PD fields that see any use, the exception to this is late spring and early summer when the pups are out... but they are also about the size of a salt and pepper shaker, so again a accurate rifle is a must.

Good luck!

Jon
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Old 12-13-2011, 10:59 PM
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Re: Going on first Prairie Dog hunt 2012

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Hey Thanks , that is great idea on the shipping your ammo and guns to yourself in care of sporting goods store. If i could fly i know i couldnt take everything i need like if i drove , but we are talking atleast 1500 miles each way that is 4 days on road that is lot of hunting time i could be doing if already at place. It would be nice to meet with someone that is already familiar with hunting prairie dogs and the places to hunt . Maybe something will come between now and then .... Thanks Again , stay in touch maybe we can do some shooting sometime ... Ricky in Kentucky
Only about 1200 miles from lousiville to great sd pd shooting. My brother has drove from charlotte in 24 hrs so really not that far. it is nice being spoiled and driving a mile to multiple dog towns. Ammo ammo and more ammo is a must. the wind likes to blow here and you never know if it will be 30 or 100 in june so come prepared. Bring any thing from a .22 to as big as you want as going long as you want can be done out here.
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Old 12-14-2011, 11:40 AM
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Re: Going on first Prairie Dog hunt 2012

Thanks , i will look into that , But my friend and his brother of New York state is going to drive and pull trailer with all the supplies are going (both retired) and im going to fly and meet them in Peorie,Sd .....
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