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Unread 11-22-2007, 11:43 AM
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First AR purchase

I am getting ready to purchase my first AR and would like to find the most Accurate out of the box, over the counter, AR on the market. It will be in .223/5.56 and will be used for Varmints and Hogs. I will probably not shoot anything much heavier than the 62 grain or so bullet. I am looking at a DPMS with flattop w/ a 22 to 24 inch stainless barrel 1-9 twist and Pit/rail for a scope (63 year old eyes) etc. I will need to have a little better than the normal 6 or so pound trigger pull, so if there is an option for this so much the better. Any comments as to brand, or make. Does DPMS make a quality product?
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Unread 11-25-2007, 08:50 AM
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Taws, in the AR world they are all about the same, everyone except OLY buy parts from a pool of vendors and assemble them, so basicly they are all parts house guns. Personaly I like an 8 twist, they seem to shoot lighter stuff as well as the 9's and terminal performace is better due to the higher rate of spin.
stick with the big players and you'll be happy, check the warranty's and shop around, I know RRA and OLY have lifetime warranty's not sure about the rest. about all reports on RRA is favorable, DPMS ain't bad either, bushy is hit and miss (this is what I've read, don't own one) currently I have RRA, J&T, Tromix, and OLY in 223's, 25 wssm, and 458 socom.
Good luck with your choice.
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Unread 11-25-2007, 07:48 PM
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I would look no further than Rock River Arms or RRA. Their Varmint A4 models have 3/4 MOA accuracy guarantee and come loaded with "upgraded" components. They have a Wylde chamber that is safe or .223 or 5.56, 2 stage trigger that is very nice, Wilson "Match" barrel, Hogue grip and did I mention the accuracy guarantee?
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The RRA Varmint A4 has a 1:8 twist which will stabize heavy bullets. My RRA shoots 60gr V Max into the same hole. My buddy has a RRA Varmint A4 in 20" and it shoots the 50gr bullets quite well. I'd say the 1:8 is pretty versitile.

I'm by no means an AR expert but I have shot RRA, DPMS, and Bushmaster ARs.

I will tell you the DPMS (.204) had the worst trigger of any rifle I have ever shot. It may have been an isolated case and I'm not bashing DPMS but I actually quit trying to pull the trigger and looked at the safety to make sure that I had disengaged it. My buddy that owns the rifle started laughing; he was standing there waiting for me to check the safety because he knew the trigger is "stiff". The trigger felt like it broke at 20lbs. I will admit that 5 shot groups were about an inch and a trigger is easy enough to fix/replace.

The Bushmaster's trigger is sloppy, creepy and has a lot of slack before breaking. The accuracy was good but not great.

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Unread 11-27-2007, 11:30 PM
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I'll second RRA. Have shot a friends with junk Russian ammo, very accurate, sub-min. My personal AR is an older Gold Eagle match rifle from Armilite, shoots sub-min also.
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Unread 11-30-2007, 04:18 PM
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I got a Rock River varminter to hunt coyote and it didn`t take but 1 trip to the field to see my mistake. Way to heavy to carry. I bought a liter upper, also RR, made it a flat top, put a 3 x 9 Leupold on it and a shell catcher. Now it`s my dream gun for running coyotes with dog. Fast and accurate.

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Unread 11-30-2007, 05:06 PM
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I would look at an BushMAster . I have two of them .

I use them for Coyote Hunting an They work welll .

I have an 16 an 24 In Barrel .

Dpms is an Good one as well .


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Unread 12-02-2007, 12:17 PM
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I've got a couple friends that have the bushmaster varminters and they both shoot sub MOA. but like said earlier, they are all a lot a like.

I've got a custom built upper that is 18", and I've shot 1 hole 5 shot groups at a 100yds with my handloads before. It's my most accurate gun I own, and I own some good ones.

It's kind of weird that they shoot so good, because they seem kind of sloppy, as far as fit goes.

they are fun guns, so have fun
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