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Contemplating First Custom Rifle

 
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Old 11-30-2010, 02:27 AM
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Certainly looks like a good round but barrel life is a pretty big setback. 1000 rounds out of a $400 barrel pains me, roughly 500 less than a 25-06, although I suppose there are always drawbacks. 6.5 284 also lacks cheap brass availability... Hmm but you can't argue with a 1k winning cartridge...

-Nick
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Old 11-30-2010, 08:36 AM
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Re: Contemplating First Custom Rifle

If you want a 25-06 , then go with a 25-06 . However the 6.5-06AI has way more good Bullets to pick from . The Case is easy to Form from 25-06 Brass or way more selection from 06 Brass ( like Lapua , RWS , Norma , IMI ,etc . ) . You Neck up or Neck Down and Fireform . My 30 inch Barrel gives 3150 FPS with 140 Gr. Bullets which is 264 Mag . territory . Bought it used and it will be used only for Looooong Range Varmints . Some reports indicate Barrel life of about 2500 Rounds if you take your time and don't try for a rapid fire Record !
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Old 11-30-2010, 02:16 PM
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What's your choice load for that kind of velocity out of the AI? That bullet has more kinetic energy with 140s than my 7mm that I'm trying to get away from due to recoil. I don't really plan on using bullets over 100gr regardless of what rifle I'm shooting so is there still a significant advantage in the AI? How much more recoil are we talking about irking that much more velocity out of a 100-120g from a 6.5AI versus the 25-06? Reloading die prices for any of the improved rounds looks pretty harsh on my budget too. I'm still interested, just need convincing it's worth it/feasable/economical/etc. I could drop the additional money I just want to make sure I'm not spending money on a decision I may later regret (I have issues with that).

Problem with the target action... Looks like it's only available in short action according to their website. I called a local gun specialty store and asked for the target action and wound up with a SKU# for a long sporter action not in stainless... Varmint and target are apparently not available in long and sporter actions are not available in stainless... Bummer. What's the max OAL that a savage short action will take?

The other option is a stainless Savage axis for ~$400 but it doesn't come with a accutrigger and I understand a new trigger has to be installed by a decent gunsmith?

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-Nick

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Old 11-30-2010, 03:12 PM
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Nick , my 6.5 was built HEAVY for 1000 Yd . Competition using 140-142 Sierra Mks , GTBs , Cauteruccios ,etc . It is a tight Neck and I had a muzzle Brake put on . It's heavy and Recoil is not a problem . However , I can't get it to shoot any 140s into small groups at 100 Yards like the previous owner said . I know the 1000 Yard BenchRest Shooters don't worry about 100 yard Groups and wait for the bullet to "go to sleep " long range . Anyway , this 1:8.5 twist Barrel Groups light Bullets into pretty small Groups at 100 yards , and I'm still getting the hang of shooting a 2 Oz. trigger . Sierra 142s went into 0.64 inches ( 4 shots ) , 140 Gr. Amax into 0.47 inches , 128 Gr. Cauteruccios into 0.34 inches , Sierra 120 Mk into 0.31 inches and Sierra 107 Mk into 0.16 inches . Prevoius owner used a Max . Load of about 56 Gr. of Rl-22 or H4831 SC with 140s which he chronod . Warning : This load should not be used without going lower and working up to whatever is SAFE in your Rifle . I have not tried this Rifle at long range but hope to next Summer .
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Old 11-30-2010, 09:25 PM
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Re: Contemplating First Custom Rifle

Is it possible to "three point turn" an '06 cartridge into a savage short action? If it's single shot magazine is irrelevant if the mag holds the rounds and I had read somewhere that savage did not have a true short action anyway, in that it was slightly longer than standard short action anyway. If .308 is 2.8" OAL and 25-06 is 3.25" OAL with 2.5" case length (assuming there is some room for play in .308) it should have no problem edging in and ejecting as an empty case. Is there merit in this thought or am I talking stupid?

Savage edge/axis actions are apparently junk so that leaves a used donor weather warrior or varmint rifle if the target action wont work.

-Nick
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