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Re: 700 yard groundhogs 243 vs 260

At this years SHOT show Remington announced they will be producing the .260 in 2014 in their SPS line, 24" tube with 8 twist.

I have a Savage in .243 and it is a good shooter using 95 gr bullets. It just doesn't handle the wind after 400 yds. This is a problem because we get wind 364-1/2 days a year.

After a couple thousand rounds out of a .243, when this barrel goes south, it will get a new .260 tube. Besides, you may get a chance to come out west someday to hunt and the .260 will handle anything we have. I'd go .260.
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    Re: 700 yard groundhogs 243 vs 260

    For the last four seasons my go-to rockchuck shooter has been my .243. It's a 24" barrel with a 1 in 10 twist which stabilizes up to a 100 grain Hornady BTSP just fine. My long range bullet is the 87 gr V-Max. However, 55 gr Ballistic Tips, 60 gr Sierra HPs, 58 gr Z-Max, and 55 gr Sierra BKs all shoot to virtually the same point of impact and I use them for the closer distances. With the Varmint Hunter reticle in my VX-3 I have solid holdovers out to 600 yards. Anything farther than that I have to dial.

    This is a picture of a first round hit at 725 yards with an 87 gr V-Max this spring.
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    These were taken with the lighter bullets out to 400 yards.
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    Re: 700 yard groundhogs 243 vs 260

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    Thanks for the input guys. I've decided on the .243 after some suggestions and from searching midwayusa and other sites seeing how there is a much larger bullet selection for the 6mm over the 6.5. unfortunately as jud pointed out, I am buying a savage model 12 lrp, and it offers both the 243 and 260 only with 9.25 twist rates, but the 87gr v max as mentioned in the replies has a .4 bc, and should stabilize well in that twist rate barrel. the rifle is also offered in 6.5 cm with a 1-8 twist, but it seems to me that the 260 shoots the heavier high bc bullets a bit faster, meaning a bit flatter. since a woodchuck isn't a steel plate at a known distance, I'd opt for a flatter shooting round.
    The difference between the 2 is so small that its really not even worth mentioning. A Creedmoor can be loaded up hot enough to match a 260 anyway so the 260 doesnt really have any advantage there. But i think the 243 is a good choice for you especially since your only shooting varmints. Those 87 v-max bullets will make soup out of them
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    The difference between the 2 is so small that its really not even worth mentioning. A Creedmoor can be loaded up hot enough to match a 260 anyway so the 260 doesnt really have any advantage there. But i think the 243 is a good choice for you especially since your only shooting varmints. Those 87 v-max bullets will make soup out of them
    +1. the .243 is a great varminter. I have shot mine out to 700yds with the 87gr V-MAX and it shot excellent and bucked the wind surprisingly well. Its great for shorter ranges and works well even out to 700yd. If you were strictly doing 500+ shots then a 6.5 Creed or .260 would be better suited with high BC 123s-140s. For your purpose, which is the same as mine, the .243 Winchester is the way to go.
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    For the last four seasons my go-to rockchuck shooter has been my .243. It's a 24" barrel with a 1 in 10 twist which stabilizes up to a 100 grain Hornady BTSP just fine. My long range bullet is the 87 gr V-Max. However, 55 gr Ballistic Tips, 60 gr Sierra HPs, 58 gr Z-Max, and 55 gr Sierra BKs all shoot to virtually the same point of impact and I use them for the closer distances. With the Varmint Hunter reticle in my VX-3 I have solid holdovers out to 600 yards. Anything farther than that I have to dial.

    This is a picture of a first round hit at 725 yards with an 87 gr V-Max this spring.
    Attachment 31553


    These were taken with the lighter bullets out to 400 yards.
    Attachment 31554

    The only good thing about coyote season coming to an end is the fact that rockchuck season is just about to begin!
    Nice shooting! That .243 did a number on those chucks! If it ever warms up here in WV and PA, I want to start putting a dent in the groundhog population with my .243 and also the coyotes.
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    At this years SHOT show Remington announced they will be producing the .260 in 2014 in their SPS line, 24" tube with 8 twist.

    I have a Savage in .243 and it is a good shooter using 95 gr bullets. It just doesn't handle the wind after 400 yds. This is a problem because we get wind 364-1/2 days a year.

    After a couple thousand rounds out of a .243, when this barrel goes south, it will get a new .260 tube. Besides, you may get a chance to come out west someday to hunt and the .260 will handle anything we have. I'd go .260.
    I don't have any problems in the wind shooting 87s at 3250 and getting hits out to 700yds.
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    Re: 700 yard groundhogs 243 vs 260

    Accurateshooter.com has a article on the 243win and the test they did vs the 6.5's where it beat them with less drop and less drift at 1k yard than them. If it was Ackley improved it was able to equal the 7wsm. It's a true performing classic that will never die. I just bought a box of 95gr Berger Classic hunter for my 243 and 6br. Hopefully I can test them soon.
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