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22-250 or Swift & 22 cal VLD's?

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Old 10-15-2009, 11:25 PM
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Re: 22-250 or Swift & 22 cal VLD's?

Stick with swift or the swift improved and never look back. If you want something fast or to push the heavy bullets start with the biggest boiler room and go from there. I've killed pd out to 8-900 yds with a 220 rocket or swift improved with 50 gr nosler bt. I have 2 one in a ruger #1b and another custom mauser that will shoot in the high .1's on a good day.

On the other hand the 243 or 6mm is really the way to go. I built a full out bench gun in 243 set up to shoot the 115 berger vlds. It shoots like a house a fire and helped me get in the top 10 out of 300 guns at the Williamsport World Open 1000yd match this year. I also took it to SD and had some kills out to 8-900 yds this year.


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Old 10-16-2009, 12:17 AM
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Re: 22-250 or Swift & 22 cal VLD's?

Because I could.....I built a 222 Magnum AI. Why? I had a 223 AI reamer, 204 Ruger brass (222 Mag necked down to 20 caliber), and a 1:8 twist Shilen Select Match stainless barrel.

Using 80 gr AMax's, 3100 fps is providing excellent accuracy, very good brass life (I am not pushing it that hard), and the 80's hit hard for caliber at extended ranges.

The 243/6mm's would do a bit better at extended ranges though with the heavier bullets as explained in the post above.
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Old 10-16-2009, 10:01 AM
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Re: 22-250 or Swift & 22 cal VLD's?

Any idea when on the 22-250 Lapua brass
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Old 10-16-2009, 11:53 AM
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Re: 22-250 or Swift & 22 cal VLD's?

Ive shot many rounds in past years in both .22-250 and the .220 Swift both for Coyotes and Rock Chucks I found both to be up to the job with out question. But if you have a .220 Swift that running right, its a phenomenal cartridge. My last .220 Swift was a Remington M700 it was absolutely magic. The Nosler 55gr BT at 3900 fps was laser flat. Many say theres no real difference between the too, however in the field it a very different story, its kinda like a bumble bee aero dynamically not being able to fly on paper, but in fact, it flys very well. Another field finding of mine; was that my .220 Swifts always seem to be a little more accurate than my .22-250s. over all. One more myth is that the .220 Swift was a barrel burner, Ive shot one pot load of rounds in all the .220 Swifts I had; with proper cleaning care, they shot just has long as my .22 250s or any other high velocity cartridge I hunted with.
So I believe the case Id pick {between the two} as a long range heavy bullet platform would be the .220 Swift with a 1:6.5 twist barrel 28 inches long using 90gr Sierra MK or 90gr JLKs.
Id pick the .220 Swift if I could only have one high velocity Yote rifle with heavy bullets
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Old 10-16-2009, 06:20 PM
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Re: 22-250 or Swift & 22 cal VLD's?

I'm the same as you I have 1700+ full power 220 rocket loads thru my #1 and last year before we went to SD my cousin shot a .438 or so with it for 5 shots at 100yds. They don't burn barrels anymore than any other high vel. cartridge.

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Old 10-23-2009, 01:55 PM
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Re: 22-250 or Swift & 22 cal VLD's?

If you want to knock off P=dogs pick one and start kill'n. Now F-class is a different story. If you don't shoot a .223 or a .308 you can't compete in F T/R you are going to have to compete in F-open. they call it open for a reason. All of the calibers mentions may fly strait and kill dogs at long range. The problem is when you are on the F-class line you are competing againts the likes of the 6.5-284, the 6mm-284, and Something I recently heard of (can't confirm this yet) the 6mm-300 which uses a necked down 300 short magnum case. you will be competing with anything less than 35 caliber. all of these will out shoot the 22-250 or the swift when you are talking about hold the x-ring at 1000 yards. Another problem you will run into is an F open gun can weight up to 22 pounds. the big magnums you will have to compete againts don't hurt and be shot repeatedly and well when the gun weighs 22 pounds. What I'm getting at is while the calibers you mentioned can and will hit targets in the next zip code they will get bet up pretty bad with the likes of what you will find at an F open category match.

My personal advise is build a heavy F-class gun for long range targets and build a varmint gun for kill'n
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Old 11-03-2009, 09:23 AM
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Re: 22-250 or Swift & 22 cal VLD's?

Originally Posted by johnmyers View Post
I have a 22-250 with a 1:8 twist Pacnor shooting 80gr smk's at 3230fps. This a really good set up for long range pds. There is not much difference with this and a 6mm with 107's at 3050fps out to 1200yds. This is actual side by shooting with both. I think you would like it, however the available brass might be an issue. If doing this again I might consider a 22br or a 6x47 in order to use Lapua brass. Good luck.

I too shoot a 22-250 pac-nor ss 1-8" twist and I am wondering what load you are using. I am working up a load using H-100V and RL-17, both powders are showing great signs using heavy bullets. My current load is 36.5gr. H-4350 under a 75gr A-Max. and that is running about 3200 fps.
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