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Old 12-07-2010, 11:03 AM
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Re: 204 ruger or 22-250

I have both a 204 REM VLSS and a 22-250 Ruger Varmint. I like both guns but like to shoot the VLSS more. Getting to your Question... I have found that my 22-250 is a farther shooting rife. I reload 50gr Hornady V-max at about 3700 FPS. It has very little recoil and barrel rise so i can stilll see my hits 75% of the time. My 204 however is shooting at 4225 FPS with Hornady 32 gr V-max. With this rifle I can watch 100% of my hits, there is no recoil or barrel rise. Both rifles have turned out to be one hole rifles. With that being said for an all around small caliber I would go with 22-250 but if this rifle will be only for p-dogs i would go with the 204. As for the heat with shooting fast i agree you will need more than one gun or slow down, its not worth shooting more dogs and ruining your barrel, there are plenty of dogs IMO.
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Old 12-07-2010, 06:32 PM
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Re: 204 ruger or 22-250

Shot both and love both. But the 22-250 is better. I do some white tail hunting with barnes 53 gr bullets. All have died as fast as my 7mm rem mag. No the limits of the round you choose and you will be happy.
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Old 12-09-2010, 02:38 PM
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Re: 204 ruger or 22-250

S243:

I think you'll love either caliber, depending on the type of shooting you are using it for. I have owned both for several years now and I have to say I'm really lovin' that .204 for anything up to 500 yds. Great ballistics all around and the key factor for me is that the barrel on a .204 does not burn out as fast as it does on a .22-250.

Don't get me wrong, I love that .22-250 dearly and I keep it handy for those shots that push past 500 yds, but the one I use the most is the .204. I know I'll catch a lot of flack from some guys on here for this, but I even built one in an AR platform and believe it or not, it's keeping up with the bolt action for accuracy. Granted, I had to spend a lot of extra $$$ to get it there, but I love gopher hunting and the .204 in semi-auto has made it even more fun so it's worth it to me. I have a 24" 1-12 twist DPMS barrel using 32 grain VMax bullets, and that thing will drive tacks all day long.

In my experience, I have seen a lot of great shooting .22-250's and a few that are not so great. I have yet to personally see a .204 that has not been a good shooter. Take it for what it's worth.
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Old 12-09-2010, 08:32 PM
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Re: 204 ruger or 22-250

If it`s only for PD`s the .204 hands down. It will be slightly cheaper to load, but you will get more rounds down the tube with less heat. Range will not be that much different. If you go with a .223 you will not need the 8 twist, and 9 is enough. The 22-250 would be a good choice if it were going to do a fair amount of coyote hunting also. My AR upper in 204 does not like the heaver bullets or Hornady bullets so it`s not my first choice for coyote, but I did kill 1 with it. With the AR you always have a second round ready to go down range and there is something to be said about that.
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Old 12-16-2010, 12:23 AM
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Re: 204 ruger or 22-250

I have had three 22-250 over the past 15 years. last year I was bitten by the black rifle bug and purchased a AR with two heavy barrel uppers one in 223 and one in 204. I did most of my squirrel shooting last year with the AR and found that I liked the 223 with hand loads better out to 300. Past 300 I like the 22-250 more than the 204.
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Old 12-16-2010, 09:36 AM
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Re: 204 ruger or 22-250

I had a stable full of .22-250's. It's a great cartridge but I now have five .204's (three AR's and two bolt rifles). The last .22-250 got turned into a fast-twist .243 AI this year. Reasons? It began with the desire to call my own shots. You can't always see 'em but a lot of the time you can. Second, fur friendly. (Nonissue for pd's only.) Third, less barrel heat. And, fourth, less expensive to reload.

You'll need a fast twist .22-250 to get appreciably more range than a .204 but a fast twist .204 will still keep up. (Run the numbers.) You'll need a muzzle break on your .22-250 to call your own shots and it makes it painful for your shooting partners to shoot around you. Ask me how I know.

My AR's are actually more accurate overall than my bolt rifles. All of them (bolts and AR's)will shoot around 1/2 MOA or less with their favorite loads. For me, when I get past the capabilities of my .204's, I need my .243AI to gain enough range and energy to make a difference.

The AR platform is a different beast but it sure can clean off a pd mound in a hurry! It can irritate your hunting partners though...

I 'm just relating my experience. I hope the .22-250 shooters aren't offended. The .22-250 is still the King of varmint cartridges and the energy of the .22-250 does make a difference on coyotes past 300 yards. But, after some pretty extensive use of both, I like the .204. Its a pretty amazing little cartridge.
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Old 12-16-2010, 09:40 PM
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Re: 204 ruger or 22-250

My brother would say 22-250 has no peer. I say the 204 at least has little competition....

Most posters above seem to be not into or have not used (much) the 39 SBK or the 40 Berger. I started out with the 32 grain because its speed impressed. But then I started looking at the balistics of the 40 grainers and tried the 40 Hornady, which wasn't nearly as accurate.

Not giving up, I loaded both the 40 Berger and 39 SBK. To my amazement, these are extremely accurate and very devastating to much longer ranges than the 32 grainers. Berger for hide saving, SBK for squirrels, Pd's. I would even put them up against a 22-250. I'm getting about 3900fps with them w/H322.

Compare the stats. You should be surprised.
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