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What high BC 223 coyote load for 500 yards?

 
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Old 07-23-2012, 06:41 PM
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Re: What high BC 223 coyote load for 500 yards?

Have shot the Hornady 75gr BTHP out past 500 yards shooting Rockchucks or eastern woodchucks many out to 600 with human kills. Don't see where a coyote would be different
to put down humanly shot placement .....
The rifle is 24" Bolt gun 223 Rem, barrel 1/8 twist, powder RL-15 past max, 205M, win brass prepped.
The bullet is traveling at 2980 fps at 15' from the muzzle......
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Old 07-25-2012, 07:08 PM
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Re: What high BC 223 coyote load for 500 yards?

I have the same rifle as you are asking about. Rem 700 Tactical .223 with 20" bull barrel. Mine sets in a HS Precision, full aluminum block, stock. I use a Caldwell 6
-9" pivoting bi-pod and a Badger Bone rear bag rest, or shoting sticks I made from dowel rod and surgical tubing, depending on the setup.

I can send you pics of groups with 75gr AMAX that are .63" @ 100 that I hand loaded on Dillon 550, so in a quick fashion, and still deliver.

The only problem is that you can only load 1 in the mag and 1 in the tube because they do not seat far enough.

69 BTHP will be just as good and you can put 5 in the mag and one in the chamber.

62 Gr American Tactical (made in Turkey ironically) have delivered consistent .48 or less groups and can be purchased off the shelf or on line. I have not fired groups over 200 with them yet, but at 200 the worst 5 shot group so far has been 1.16"

Good luck and good hunting!!
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Old 07-26-2012, 11:15 PM
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Re: What high BC 223 coyote load for 500 yards?

Great thread guys. Bundle of info. keep it up, thanks.
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Old 07-27-2012, 06:08 AM
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Re: What high BC 223 coyote load for 500 yards?

I have shot alot of coyotes & seen alot shot by friends & though I love my .223(cheap,perfectly capable round), my friends 220 swift & 22-250's are just better suited to the task past 350yds(in my opinion). I shoot winchester silvertip's 55gr & they shoot hand loaded nosler ballistic tip ammo so that may make a big difference. Definitaly look for a bullet with good weight retention & expansion at those longer distances.
Shot placement matters! It also matters what you hit! I have seen softball size holes in the throat & shoulder to pencil size holes between ribs shooting my .223. Holes vary greatly in size according to distance,angle & the density of what bullet impacts internally. No matter how good my shot placement is I usually have to track. Not always but usually, 50-200yd track jobs are standard. They are a tough critter! My friends are the opposite! Bang, Flop is the standard with the occasional track job. Especially past 300yds those calibers just seem to have a little more Thump than I do out of my .223!
.243 as mentioned before is a good round for long range coyotes but leaves a big hole. The 22-250 &220 swift are excellent calibers but can leave a big hole if they hit bone entering or exiting. The .223 is best for the least amount of pelt damage but usally requires some tracking & u may have to drag or carry further. For 10 years I have evaluated every single coyote one of us has shot.....,placement,damage,distance,entry, & exit holes. This has been my personal experience with my equip & friends equip.

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Old 07-27-2012, 03:29 PM
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Re: What high BC 223 coyote load for 500 yards?

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I have shot alot of coyotes & seen alot shot by friends & though I love my .223(cheap,perfectly capable round), my friends 220 swift & 22-250's are just better suited to the task past 350yds(in my opinion). I shoot winchester silvertip's 55gr & they shoot hand loaded nosler ballistic tip ammo so that may make a big difference. Definitaly look for a bullet with good weight retention & expansion at those longer distances.
Shot placement matters! It also matters what you hit! I have seen softball size holes in the throat & shoulder to pencil size holes between ribs shooting my .223. Holes vary greatly in size according to distance,angle & the density of what bullet impacts internally. No matter how good my shot placement is I usually have to track. Not always but usually, 50-200yd track jobs are standard. They are a tough critter! My friends are the opposite! Bang, Flop is the standard with the occasional track job. Especially past 300yds those calibers just seem to have a little more Thump than I do out of my .223!
.243 as mentioned before is a good round for long range coyotes but leaves a big hole. The 22-250 &220 swift are excellent calibers but can leave a big hole if they hit bone entering or exiting. The .223 is best for the least amount of pelt damage but usally requires some tracking & u may have to drag or carry further. For 10 years I have evaluated every single coyote one of us has shot.....,placement,damage,distance,entry, & exit holes. This has been my personal experience with my equip & friends equip.

Tell that to the 22 mag guys, we know the 223 is much much much much more powerful than the 22 mag.
On a thread on this site they wear the 22 mag is a death ray on coyotes. my friend has hunted them with the 22 mag is it is 50/50 dead or run off (prob die later) %.
I don't doubt what you say, never shot one with 223 yet. but know people who have with success.
it is funny to hear stories of how coyotes can run off with a .223, yet the .22 mag is 100% death on them.

is the .22 mag more deadly than a 223 on coyotes?
read this.

.22 MAG too small for coyotes???
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Old 07-28-2012, 04:44 AM
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Re: What high BC 223 coyote load for 500 yards?

I am not out in the field to waste my free time so I personally would not use a .22 mag. Like you said sure you can kill one with it but your looking at a 50/50 kill ratio especially past 100yds. Head or heart shots would definitely kill one but, they are sometimes tough to shoot standing still. Especially in the freezing cold with the wind blowing rain & snow in your face. There is alot of fat & fur on them but when you skin him out that kill zone isn't that big when you add in all the real world factors.
Those larger calibers may help you reclaim any marginal hit yotes. I've lost a few with the .223 that I thought were good hits(obviously not as good as I thought!). I usually use shooting sticks that help a lot but, in the real world you are prone to less than perfect hits sooner or later. I sometimes have to take a cleanup shot on a less than perfect hit. I have also have tracked plenty of them that were hit good for several hundred yds. Most of mine go down in a pretty reasonable distance but they are tough and have an extreme will to live. Come to think of it we all switched to 4 buck cause we were shooting them in the head & behind the shoulders at under 35yds with a 12ga (extra full turkey choke,3 in mag 4 shot winchester supreme) & had like 4 or 5 run offs. These were good shots out of patterned guns!
I don't like tracking them all over the place for two hours or dragging a mile when I could be calling in more coyotes somewhere else.They get 40-50lbs here! My largest is 43lbs & I have seen some 46 & 48lb yotes(berkley fish scale). To be perfectly honest I am planning on upgrading to a better more efficient caliber because I know that I am at the lower end of consistently effective calibers.

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Old 07-28-2012, 08:58 AM
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Re: What high BC 223 coyote load for 500 yards?

I have killed a lot of critteres with both the 60gr V-max and the 69gr Sierra MatchKing HPBT. Lot's of rifles will shoot either one very well.

Black Hill's sells both bullets in it's blue box factory reman line and so does Freedom Ammunition.
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