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new to coyote hunting, 7mm-08 or .223?

 
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Old 12-08-2009, 03:15 PM
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new to coyote hunting, 7mm-08 or .223?

I have recently got into coyote hunting as well as long range/target shooting. I am looking for a rifle that will fill both of those rolls. I have some free time on my hands now that the new GI bill made going back to college affordable and want to get a budget friendly rifle set-up. I am looking at the Weatherby vanguard in either .223 or 7mm-08. I live in Ohio so it will not likely be used for a deer rifle, and I own a 30-06 for that. I also have an AR15 carbine in 5.56, will a bolt gun with a 24" barrel be that much better or make that much noticeable difference in accuracy within the range of the .223/5.56? I see both pros and cons to having two in the same caliber(not needing new brass or dies is one) as well very little recoil for days at the range. As for the 7mm-08 I like the ballistics, BC and range of this caliber, but Im thinking it may be a bit much for coyotes and groundhogs. Also, is its recoil high enough to make a day of target shooting uncomfortable? And will the rifle I'm buying be accurate enough to justify getting the 7mm-08 for longer ranges. thanks for any input.

I will not be trying to sell the fur but will keep some of the nicer ones for myself.
and how does the 7mm-08 compare to a 30-06 in recoil?

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Old 12-08-2009, 04:19 PM
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Re: new to coyote hunting, 7mm-08 or .223?

7mm-08 is a pretty light recoiling cartridge compared to the '06 but the .223 is even more pleasant to shoot, easier on hides, and a bunch cheaper to shoot. With all considerations you included in your post taken into account I'd recommend the .223.
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Old 12-08-2009, 05:03 PM
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Re: new to coyote hunting, 7mm-08 or .223?

With the larger cals some times it can be hard to get the larger bullets to open up and not just poke a hole without blowing something in half. I would vote the 223.
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Old 12-08-2009, 07:55 PM
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Re: new to coyote hunting, 7mm-08 or .223?

I have shot thousands of 7-08 and will tell you that even in a 10# rifle you will be aware of the recoil. Will you reload?
If so then Barnes solids or X bullets in 120gr's loaded to 2400fps will give minimum pelt damage. Accuracy is superb so head shots are desireable.
Recoil will be very acceptable with this load. Since you already have a 223, I say step up to the 7-08.
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Old 12-13-2009, 11:46 AM
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Re: new to coyote hunting, 7mm-08 or .223?

I have started looking at the .243 also. I may go with it. It is more than tan the .223, higher BC with the bullets Id use (85 to 95gr). not as good as the 7mm-08 but I'll hold off on that one.

Any load ideas for a 24" barrel? I'm thinking 95gr. Sierra matchking bthp; 87gr Vmax; 85gr speer boattail. With varget, H350 or IMR 4350 powders. Probably Winchester primers.
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Old 12-13-2009, 01:23 PM
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Re: new to coyote hunting, 7mm-08 or .223?

99.9% of my hunting is done with handguns but I will use a 223 AR or 17/223 AR once in a while. I think it is the perfect rifle for coyotes.
My buddy I hunt with uses a 243 and it works great too.
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Re: new to coyote hunting, 7mm-08 or .223?

Scott,
Go with the 243. I have hunted coyotes with this rifle for years. It is in my oppinion the premium caliber for coyotes. I don't know how much long range work you want to get into, but this caliber will fight the wind a whole lot better than the 223. Don't bet me wrong the 223 is an excelant round and my hunting partner roughtinely makes shots out to 800 yards on a calm day. But if you consider that a good 10 mph breeze can blow your round 125 inches it can be very tricky to dope wind. I have shot the barrel out of my 243 and since rebuilt the rifle into a tack driving 6x47 lapua. If you are going to go wildcat I would highly recomend this round. Simmiliar ballistics to the 243 with way better barrel life. Anyway for a good old coyote gun "243" all the way. Good luck to you sir,
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