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Old 11-26-2009, 07:31 PM
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Re: Lion hunt gone bad

One guy employed a personal poisoning program but made the mistake of telling people about it .This guy used poisoned hot-dogs on game trails after the bears had bedded down for the year.He was very successful at killing some wolves but his big mouth got him in trouble with the feds.

I heard about a guy who dragged road killed critters into wolf areas that had been "treated" he too was successful at bringing their numbers down in his area .

I saw two dead calves dumped right off of hwy.55 the main road heading north out of boise ,there were huge canine tracks around the carcass's that had been fed on.

A good friend -no BS type of guy- told of a guy who killed two wolves in the same area just north of Eagle ,ID by a rancher who caught them chasing a very pregnant mare of his.Came up to check on the horse looked out in the field and she was running full speed -he thought OMG what is that horse doing? Then saw a wolf come into sight -jumped out with 30-06 killed the wolf -then another wolf took off out of the sage brush -killed it too.Called the game warden they picked up the two wolves -wardens said very little and went on.

I was in sportsman warehouse and overheard a teen girl telling a boy that they saw a wolf in the foothills -boise bench area.I asked her how she knew it was a wolf and not a coyote ? she said her dad watched it with binoculars and was a coyote hunter..

Repeating a story here again ,i'm 90% sure i called in a wolf in the owyhee region of sw id. .
I set up the caller on a large rock infested hillside then backed up 50yds. it was still dark but dawn was breaking.
There was a small ridge running down to my right 150-175 yds away as it got light enough to see and shoot i turned the caller on.It mildly spooked 5-6 wild mustang horses that were standing down in the bottom and they made some horse sounds and looked towards the caller -nothing more.
All the sudden the stallion freaked out and let out a sound that i've never heard a horse make -like a screaming squall.He started running through and over the sage brush making those sounds and shaking his head -he would run out zig-zagging and back to the mares acting crazy looking intently towards the back side of the ridge i spoke of earlier.
There was one colt in the herd and it was standing facing backwards between the mares then one of the big mares came out and joined the stallion looking at the foot of the ridge -sceaming running and crashing through the sage brush.
I scanned the area that they were staring at the whole time watching the horses out of the side of my eye hoping they would point out what had them in such a frenzy.This went on for a few minutes then the horses slowly settled down.
I kept my seat for another 30min slowly glassing all the areas visible but never saw anything.Then i hiked over to the ridge looked and glassed some more -nothing in sight.
I stayed on my side of the ridge so i wouldn't school whatever it might have been ,and proceeded to the bottom to try to figure out what freaked the horses out like that -the horses just calmly stared at me and kept their distance.
In the bottom i found fresh canine tracks and knew immediately it was a wolf or there was a giant dog out there.
I placed a 25-06 round on the dog track and it was about 2/3 the length of the track .
NO coyote has a footprint that big -i have personally seen a 48lb coyote hanging on a scale and looked at its feet -maybe half as big from memory.
I'll say it again there are probably wolves in ne california by now.
As someone stated earlier hunting especially with all the stipilations put on it will NEVER stop the prolific wolf.
Keep in mind that there are so many city dwellers living the "western life" that basically provide a safe haven on their ranches for wolves.
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Old 02-18-2011, 01:29 PM
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Re: Lion hunt gone bad

I have never thought of it that way (your last sentence), but it makes sense. I agree, hunting won't slow them down very much but it's a lot better than nothing. I wonder how much aerial hunting the government is doing and keeping it quiet?
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Old 02-22-2011, 11:11 AM
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Re: Lion hunt gone bad

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I have never thought of it that way (your last sentence), but it makes sense. I agree, hunting won't slow them down very much but it's a lot better than nothing. I wonder how much aerial hunting the government is doing and keeping it quiet?
not nearly enough cause i wasnt invited
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Old 02-22-2011, 11:24 AM
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Re: Lion hunt gone bad

I disagree that anything but hunting from the air is the only thing going to stop them. Normal hunting 100yrs ago worked and with out fancy calls. I think all it takes is determination on our parts. If I hunted wolves as hard as everything else I would own a lot of wolf pelts. I think we all just need to get involved and put the hurt on them. Just my 2 cents
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Old 02-22-2011, 12:51 PM
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I disagree that anything but hunting from the air is the only thing going to stop them. Normal hunting 100yrs ago worked and with out fancy calls. I think all it takes is determination on our parts. If I hunted wolves as hard as everything else I would own a lot of wolf pelts. I think we all just need to get involved and put the hurt on them. Just my 2 cents
Kind of what I was thinking. It has been done before so why not again? If the Feds would ever get out of the way and the gloves get to come off hunters should be able to put a serious hurt on their numbers.

I guess it it would be too much to hope that some state would claim for themselves the right to manage their wildlife and force the Fed to stay the H out of it.

But I am a long long ways from MT, so there is probably lots I don't know about the current situation. If I was out that way though I would sure be doing a lot of coyote hunting though
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Old 02-22-2011, 01:59 PM
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Re: Lion hunt gone bad

How long did it take last time? And most of the people out and about were shooting them. Now a day you'll get 1 out of every 5 sightings, that would of shot.
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Old 03-06-2011, 09:07 PM
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Re: Lion hunt gone bad

I know of a fatality, not in the lower 48 but fairly fresh in a lot of peoples minds.

Wolf hunting in the southwest pen has gone down for a lot of reasons I won't elaborate on but the numbers are also way up. Havent been able to even get a subsutance permit for carbou the numbers are so bad.

summer of 09 I was driving down to check on the boat during a blow and there was one on the airstrip, I tried to run it down but the ol d50 pickup didn't have enough oomph. First wolf I had seen in the village in the summer for as long as I have been alive.

Spring of 10 a teacher from the village 10 miles inland was out for a run and was killed bye wolves. Was a bit disturbing, but just goes to show that they have the capacity for killing people. Just because it hasnt happened in id wash, nw oregon, etc doesnt mean they lack the capacity for it.

Traditional hunting may not beat back the tide, but it cant hurt. Oregon farmers and hunters have been loosing the battle against cougars for the last 5 years, I can only imagine it would be worse if nothing had been hunted.
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