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.40 S&W or .45 ACP for song dogs???

 
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Old 12-03-2011, 04:17 PM
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Re: .40 S&W or .45 ACP for song dogs???

"Both will work if you can shoot the pistol proficiently."

Pretty much sums it up.
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Old 12-03-2011, 05:49 PM
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Re: .40 S&W or .45 ACP for song dogs???

Pick the one that you shoot the best. For me that would be a 1911 plus mine has a longer sight radius than my 40 Baby Glock. Does one have night sights vs the other? Plenty of gun for a dog in my opinion as a 22 will put it on them.
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Old 12-04-2011, 12:56 AM
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Re: .40 S&W or .45 ACP for song dogs???

I won't say I'm a good pistol shot, but I carry mine anyway. I try to restrict mine to less than 30 yds ? Could happen!
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Re: .40 S&W or .45 ACP for song dogs???

I would go with a Nosler JHP at 185 grains with 6.8 gr of SR7625 powder thats right around 870 (6.9 is max load) and that should shoot flat enough for 50 yard or practice your defensive rounds and buy 1000fps hornady defesive max
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Old 12-06-2011, 08:54 PM
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Re: .40 S&W or .45 ACP for song dogs???

If you can hit a paper plate size target at that distance consistently you will be fine with either of those calibers. These numbers are straight of hornady's website for 40 smith 165gr and for 45acp 200gr+p load.


Muzzle 50 100 1175/506 1066/416 990/359


Velocity/Energy 4" barrel with the 40, and 5" with the 45



Muzzle 50 100 1055/494 982/428 926/380 If they'll stop a person from getting to you at a distance of 50yd, they'll stop a coyote, no if ands or buts, about it. If you can make a good shot on the dog he will go down, i'd be willing to bet he'll drop.
I remember reading about the MP at Ft Hood who shot and killed a gunman at around 50yd with a 9mm ball rnd which is a 115gr bullet generating only 417ft-lb at the muzzle.
For the record a 40gr v-max from a 22-250 at 400 yd has 410ft-lb of energy, and i've personally seen yotes killed with that load from further that dropped in their tracks...
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Old 12-06-2011, 09:36 PM
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Re: .40 S&W or .45 ACP for song dogs???

A 45 is fine at 50 yards. Good luck with finding a .40 that will shoot well enough to
engage those distances. As far as killing I rolled a yote last winter while sledding with a glock 27 at about 30 and he didn't get up. I don't think 50 would be any different but
hitting him would have been much easier with the 1911.
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Old 12-06-2011, 11:21 PM
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Re: .40 S&W or .45 ACP for song dogs???

That much slug hitting anything has to put it down. I enjoy both, but hunting - poly /teflon gets my vote. I have sat on my Glock, dropped it, without a scratch. Glocks are tough. I prefer my XDM 40 as I do not like the rake of the Glock grip. Glock is a fine pistol.
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