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Old 03-18-2007, 09:28 PM
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I have been looking at some of the big hand cannons being made right now. I dont think I want one of thos but I do want a pistol I think for longer range practice and varmit hunting. I like the custom xp's and strikers but I dont want to drop alot of cash into something to find out that it wasn't very fun. I know that you get what you pay for and that having good equipment can make the difference between fun and "I will never do that again". So before I drop a couple grand into something that I will decide is crap and no fun, I was looking for an alternative.

My dad has a .243 in an encore and it is very accurat but the problem is is that you cant put a bipod on it. no front swivle stud. I got to thinking that I have a .223 rifle barrel for my encore. Can you cut the barrel down, throw a bipod on it along with a pistol scope and will it work just to see if I like it then I am only out a barrel.


Also is there a length limit for the barrel of a pistol. I know there is for a rifle but I am not sure on a pistol.

Another side note. I never shoot my encore/223 because I cant shoot it in the field very well. The barrel I have shoots normally .5moa @ 100 but as soon as I leave the bench bullets go anywhere except for hitting what I am aiming at. I cant figure it out for I shoot alot and none of my other rifles do this. The reason I never use this gun is because of this. You go out and cant hit a damn thing and it torques you off. Have remingtons, coopers, and savages that dont do that. I am very large framed and I had the same problem with the contenders and always figured that I was to big to shoot such a little rifle but the encores are supposed to be a full size rifle.
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Old 03-19-2007, 07:33 AM
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Re: varmit pistol

Screech,

Sounds like you havent done the trigger on that Encore! If you have then it needs a oversize hing pin.

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Old 03-19-2007, 07:46 AM
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Re: varmit pistol

Screech, Thats exactly what I did. I have a rifle barrel cut down for my Encore. The only difference is the location of the front screw hole and a rifle forearm. I think you could drill/tap a hole in any barrel and put the rifle forearm on it. I posted a pic of my Encore in a post here.
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Old 03-19-2007, 09:22 AM
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Re: varmit pistol

Screech,

The Encore and contender are great handguns and if you want several caliber options, impossible to beat.

That said, for precision handgun work, you have realized their limits, they are not very user friendly in the field.

I would recommend you look at trying to find a used Rem XP-100. THey were offered in 223 Rem but if you can not find one, get the much more common 221 Fireball. Shot it first, I have had four of these in the Fireball and all have been 3/4 moa or under shooters out to 300 yards or so with good taylored ammo.

If you want more, order in match grade barrel and have the XP trued and rebarreled to the 223 or 22-250. I have built dozens of these handguns and when built properly, they will rival any heavy rifle as far as accuracy is concenred.

The best part, you can put a bipod on these without effecting the POI like it will on an Encore or Contender.

If you want real precision handgun performance and also a huge increase in power capability, track down a used XP-100, you will not be unhappy.

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Old 03-19-2007, 09:57 AM
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Re: varmit pistol

I would agree with Kirby's thoughts on the XP's
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Old 03-19-2007, 01:40 PM
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Re: varmit pistol

I started handgunning as a T/C Contender nut! Owned nearly a dozen frames and fifty barrels through the years (and I'm only thirty!) but now have the herd trimmed to a half dzen frames and twenty-ish barrels. They are superb handguns and I have harvested a ton-o-game with them. Cut down rifle barrels also work very well for customizing length or changing forearm configurations. Then if you set it up with a bipod and leave it zeroed as is...great.

If you are set up to shoot varmints from a bench, then the T/C's will shoot right along side an XP-100 or Striker for Minute-o-game accuracy to 300-400 yards. I've used mine on deer and groundhogs to this range. Beyond that range the bolt guns are definately more accurate and much easier to get a stable field rest over a pack or bipod simply due to the one piece stock design. The actions are also better and can be made to shoot more precise...it's just a fact. When's the last time you saw a break action benchrest gun winning in the IBS or NBRSA Light or Heavy division? I've taken money from several BR shooter (light and heavy) with my XP-100 .222 Remington (HS stock, Hart barrel, custom trigger, etc, etc).

Since I got hooked on Strikers and XP's...not another T/C has entered the stable! I have three custom Strikers and three custom XP's.

This is a pic pf the FIRST group fired from my APS XP-100 7mm-270WSM.

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Also is there a length limit for the barrel of a pistol.

Another side note. I never shoot my encore/223 because I cant shoot it in the field very well. The barrel I have shoots normally .5moa @ 100 but as soon as I leave the bench bullets go anywhere except for hitting what I am aiming at. I cant figure it out for I shoot alot and none of my other rifles do this. The reason I never use this gun is because of this.

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Question 1...length limit...no.

Question 2...scattered shots...do you swap a bipod on or off? Sounds like it may be a forearm problem but I've never had one be this dramatic as you describe.

In short (even after my previous post)...I'd look for a Striker. Sell the .223 barrel (worth about $200 on the market) and find a Striker. Got my last one (7mm-08) for $300 out the shop door. Then buy a varmint contour take off in .223 Rem from the web (market rate is about $100), cut to 16" and screw on the action. Total invested is about $400 less optics. And you will have a SUPER rig!! The gun top is a Striker that I did just that with...it's a cut off 22-250 barrel. Easily holds sub .75MOA at 500yds in decent conditions.

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