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Range Report For "Thunder"

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Unread 06-16-2012, 10:34 PM
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Range Report For "Thunder"

Finally got “Thunder” (6.5-06 Specialty Hand out to the range today for load development. This chamber has a tight neck (.290 neck), so neck turning was part of the case work up.
Using Remington 25-06 brass. The flash holes and burrs were terrible on some of the cases.
I switched out the Timney for a Jewel, and replaced the Leupold VX-3 6.5-20 with ART for a FFP Leupold Mark 4 with ART, and added a sunshade.
Modified the grip via Dremel Tool to take off some sharp edges at the top since it is a AR grip.
I used H-4350 since I use it for all of my 6.5-284’s. Federal 210M primers.
Tried 142 SMK’s first, got around ½ group(4-shot groups) to a tad under, but still wasn’t happy. Then I tried 130 grain Berger’s. Again no satisfaction.
Next went to 140 A-Max’s.
That Krieger likes 140 A-Max’s with 50.0 grains of H-4350 engaging the lands.
I did all load development off of a bi-pod and my little rear field bag.
Haven’t had time to chrono yet. Guessing from 2675-2750 fps.
I'm a happy camper.

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Unread 06-17-2012, 12:25 AM
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Re: Range Report For "Thunder"

That will work! Nice shooting Ernie!!! What color is that barrel finished in? Cerekote or Duracoat? It's close to what I've got in mind for my build.
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Unread 06-17-2012, 09:15 AM
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Re: Range Report For "Thunder"

Nice rig,Ernie. Looks like a real shooter. Great shooting. With so many specialty pistols,how do you choose which one to hunt with?
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Unread 06-17-2012, 09:31 AM
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Re: Range Report For "Thunder"

Nice looking rig and a real shooter. Question, why the 6.5x06 over the 6.5x284?
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Unread 06-17-2012, 09:43 AM
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Re: Range Report For "Thunder"

Ease of feeding with detachable mags.
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Nice looking rig and a real shooter. Question, why the 6.5x06 over the 6.5x284?
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Unread 08-21-2012, 05:03 PM
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Re: Range Report For "Thunder"

Please tell me more about your handgun,What brand or who built it ? Thanks
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Unread 08-21-2012, 06:06 PM
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Re: Range Report For "Thunder"

Darrel Holland/Holland Shooter's Supply in Powers, OR built it (541.439.5155).
Non-designated Rem 700 LA, Chambered in 6.5-06. Krieger 18" 1-8T with Holland's new Gen 2 Radial brake. Ended up going to Hybrid 100 V with the 140 A-Max's and Winchester brass.
Here is some more updates:

Darrell Holland and I teamed up to compete for the 2012 WTRC (Wyoming Tactical Rifle Championship). We have shot together some, hunted together once, but had never competed together until this match.
We both felt Darrell was a better wind caller, so that left me to be the one on the trigger for the LR targets. Out to 1K with bonus targets beyond 1000 yards. Darrell would shoot the carbine targets which went out to 500 yards with some bonus targets further. Some targets would not allow you to engage them from the prone position, but we expected this and our planning worked out well on those targets. Pistol shooting was out to 50 yards with those small 3” triangles also being bonus targets. We took turns engaging the pistol targets.
Darrell had picked up a slightly used JP AR-15 stoked with Black Hills 5.56 ammo with 77 grain SMK’s. Leupold VX-3 4.5-14 with the MOA ART Reticle.
For this match we thought quick reloading would be an advantage for me, since I am usually using a single-shot, and having a non-designated 700 LA on hand sure didn’t hurt.
We decided on the 6.5-06 for ease of feeding with detachable mags.
McRee chassis, Jewell trigger, Holland pinned recoil lug, Holland base, Leupold Mark 4 rings, Holland Level, Leupold VX-3 4.5-14 I had won at the MOA Handgun match was sent away to get the all MOA ART reticle.
Krieger 1-8T with Holland’s Gen 2 Radial brake.
This SP is affectionately called “Thunder!”
After the first course, I didn’t feel satisfied with some of the LR shots, as we had some tough wind conditions. In spite of that, we were in 2nd place after our first course.
Darrell and I had some miscues as we go about things differently, but as time progressed our communication got better, and we began to hit on all cylinders.
After our second course on Friday we again held second place. We were both pleased for sure.
To make a long story short we continued to hold 2nd place through every course, including the team on team.
Darrell is an awesome spotter and shooter. As an example, on our last field course we had a LR bonus target right at ¼ of a mile. Darrel gave me the dope, and my first shot centered it. The bonus targets are small upside 3” triangles (3” at the base of the triangle). Second shot smacked it again. That is something I will remember for awhile. It also goes to the quality components we used and by Darrell’s ability to build extremely accurate rigs. I made every shot prone with a two finger hold. My thumb against the back the chassis and my trigger finger lightly touching that Jewell trigger.
When I redid my load development last week and used Hybrid 100V my MV went to 2881 with a 3-shot group off of a bi-pod and small pillow bag measuring .155
While getting drops confirmed out 1100 yards I had two shot groups at 950 and 1100 yards that measured 2 inches and @ 1100 even smaller when shooting prone.
If anyone ever doubted the capability of a Specialty Handgun when shooting in field conditions at distance against experienced rifle shooters, that myth should be put to rest.
I am still slower from shot-to-shot compared to a rifleman, but accuracy wise I am not disadvantaged.
Darrell and I are already in the process of making changes to make us even better next year.
This is the first time I can ever remember being this pleased when coming in second.

.155 group earlier last week:

ART MOA Reticle

Video of the brakes effectiveness:
We videoed this goofing around on Thursday before the match.
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