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Old 05-11-2014, 02:12 AM
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Re: Optics?

Great article. I went ahead and dropped a rifle scope I had laying around onto my 22k hornet. It's....interesting, lol. Had some questions.

If I wanted to do something like that with this pistol would it work out very well? Not sure how the creedmoor will recoil and it doesn't have a break.

I'm also concerned about the time it takes to get on target. I tried with my two frames. Simmons was on right away, but it was a very narrow for the field of view in terms of the sweet spot.

The rifle scope was quicker, but i could basically only see the center of the reticle. I had to move WAY in to where I could see any improvement. At the shooting position it'd take me a long while to find my target. I tired moving in for a full FOV and backed out slowly, but it seemed really slow.

Any advice?
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Old 05-11-2014, 08:08 AM
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Re: Optics?

I wouldn't try it without a good brake.
If you go that way, I can give you some smith's that can put one on a SP.
I find targets way faster with a riflescope than I do a LER scope.
Riflescopes have lot larger FOV compared to LER's.
Another key is the eye relief of said riflescope.

Below are two videos. One my son is using a 7mm SAUM with 162 A-Max's (cerakoted XP-100 center-grip)
Other one is me shooting a 6.5-06 with 140 grainers at around 2880 fps.
Both of these are using Holland's radial brake.
One has 6.5-20 Leupold and the other has a 4.5-14 Leupold.

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Great article. I went ahead and dropped a rifle scope I had laying around onto my 22k hornet. It's....interesting, lol. Had some questions.

If I wanted to do something like that with this pistol would it work out very well? Not sure how the creedmoor will recoil and it doesn't have a break.

I'm also concerned about the time it takes to get on target. I tried with my two frames. Simmons was on right away, but it was a very narrow for the field of view in terms of the sweet spot.

The rifle scope was quicker, but i could basically only see the center of the reticle. I had to move WAY in to where I could see any improvement. At the shooting position it'd take me a long while to find my target. I tired moving in for a full FOV and backed out slowly, but it seemed really slow.

Any advice?
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Old 05-11-2014, 03:57 PM
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Re: Optics?

That's unreal reduction in recoil. What does that muzzle break cost for installation and what is the turn around time? I'd think it'll be easier for me since I'd only have to send in a barrel.

I'm not sure if this is the right route for me, but I'm going to look into it.

Also, how do you go about making one of those pistols with a bolt? It looks like a 700 action but I'm no expert.

Thanks.
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Old 05-11-2014, 04:16 PM
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It is Remington's center-grip XP-100.
Single-Shot specialty pistol.
The rear grip is a non-designated 700 action.
Google-Holland's Shooting Supply.
It is his newest brake design.
There are number of competent smith's that can install it.
If You have more questions you can call me at 307-257-7431
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Old 05-11-2014, 08:53 PM
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Re: Optics?

From what you stated in your other post about 100 to 200 yards and possible out to 300 yards for deer you would really love the Burris LER 3-12. You will just have to learn how to use it. I really like the Weaver 2.5-8x28 LER scopes. I always keep the scope set on 2.5 for the reason that a deer can pop up in your lap and I have learned that you always have time to crank the power up but never have time to crank it down. I will find the deer very quickly on 2.5 and then crank it up to 8 and pick my spot on the deers shoulder and shoot that spot. Most of my hunting with my Contenders are only out to around 125 yards. If I was shooting deer at longer ranges I would bite the bullet and drop the cash on a Burris 3-12. I have shot some with a friends pistol that has one and I really like it.
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Old 05-11-2014, 09:07 PM
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Thanks! If this works out I just might have to build one on one of those 700 actions. That looks like an amazing setup. If you don't mind me asking, what would a setup like that cost?

I don't want to have a ton of setup into this project so I think for this one I'm going to stay with a pistol scope. If that doesn't work out then I still have some time before deer season to get it sorted.

I'm looking at the Bushnell 3200 now. I've found several reviews about the Burris 3-12 that said as you increased the power the eye relief decreased...and past about 7 power you couldn't use it at arms length anymore. You guys have any experience with the 3200?

I had looked at the Weavers but couldn't find enough reviews on them to go that route. They're very reasonably priced though.

I'd love the Leupold but it is pricey. I'm not ready to buy yet but I'm going to keep me ear to the ground for a used one.
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Old 05-11-2014, 09:21 PM
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Re: Optics?

This can't be an action that is a rifle or was a rifle.
Sort of depends on whose barrel, trigger, scope, base and rings you use, and who you have build it.
Call me tomorrow some time and I can walk you through things.
Here is an XP-100 on a McRee Chassis:
284 Winchester


BAT non-designated action McRee chassis; 6.5 Leopard



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Thanks! If this works out I just might have to build one on one of those 700 actions. That looks like an amazing setup. If you don't mind me asking, what would a setup like that cost?

I don't want to have a ton of setup into this project so I think for this one I'm going to stay with a pistol scope. If that doesn't work out then I still have some time before deer season to get it sorted.

I'm looking at the Bushnell 3200 now. I've found several reviews about the Burris 3-12 that said as you increased the power the eye relief decreased...and past about 7 power you couldn't use it at arms length anymore. You guys have any experience with the 3200?

I had looked at the Weavers but couldn't find enough reviews on them to go that route. They're very reasonably priced though.

I'd love the Leupold but it is pricey. I'm not ready to buy yet but I'm going to keep me ear to the ground for a used one.
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