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Load Development for the 284 Win XP-100

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Unread 05-18-2013, 12:43 AM
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Wyoming
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Re: Load Development for the 284 Win XP-100

You are a funny guy
I started out with a 10" 222 Rem and then a Super 14 7 TCU Contender back in the 80's.
I would share/talk about those barrels, like I do here.
Of course, this forum wasn't here in those days.
For years I had one XP-100 (This is after I sold my Contender), and I took time to save for it. First a 7-08, then a 284 Win (Sold the 7-08, so I could build the 284). Used the 284 Win for everything from pd's to elk for a number of years.
I share what I learn, and I share what works good for me and what I like.
I also help a lot of guys get started at distance with SP's.
I let people use my own rigs in comps, to get them started. I enjoy it.
I promote SP's and what can be done with them.
What I like most is watching someone else being successful with a SP at distance or taking their first big game animal with a SP. The look on their face is priceless.
Seems like you have been doing some of that yourself (Promoting and talking up your SP)--Good!
You have nothing to prove to me.
Yours is probably bigger than mine Figured I would just get that one out of the way.
I am not down on your SP.
Have I shot Strikers and TC's at distance? Yep.
Were they highly customized? None of the Striker's were, but 2 TC's were, but most were not.
Don't like Striker triggers, but I have had several of them.
Other reason is the bolt is on the wrong side for me.
Just because I don't prefer Striker's or TC's doesn't make them bad- I just don't care for them. I don't tear down those that use them and I am pleased when they are successful with them.

If I want a SP for under a grand I buy an MOA Maximum.
External hammer=Slow lock time. MOA's have an external hammer
Every time you reload you have to move the gun off of your rest.
If you want to compete against me come to the MOA LR Handgun Comp that is in Sundance, WY every June. 3-day match. Earlier in the week we have PD shoot on that Monday-Tuesday. We also have a roving field course
MOA Annual "Cold Turkey" Handgun Match

Come, and we can play whatever games you want, but I am not interested in 100-200 yard stuff, and although I shoot from the bench and usually once a year compete from the bench, my heart is in field shooting (First shot connections in that it tells me how good or bad of a job I did of reading the wind), not group shooting.
I will shoot one of my MOA's and you can shoot your SP. I will shoot my own MOA with my own loads.
If you like I will shoot one of my MOA's that I picked up used for under $900 (Included 3-boxes of 140 grain Berger's, 1 box of Lapua brass, NF rings and Redding dies). You can do the math. I was patient and when a great deal came my way I took it.
I have never got around to load development yet with it yet. MOA uses Douglas barrels.
I shoot MOA's on a regular basis, and they are not the “super-duper big buck$$ specials”.
Again, you don't have to prove anything to me-Just go have fun with SP's.
I don't think the other SP guys really care what I do with a stock rig.
FYI-I have had plain jane MOA's for some time now.
MOA's are considered factory class in IHMSA-Nuff said.
I am not the biggest buck in the field. If you are trying to measure yourself up against someone, to see where you stand, go play against the rifle guys in either bench or tactical with your SP.
Enjoy what you have and don't worry about the other guys.

Last, you do not know how much or how little I spend on my bolt rigs.
You assume a lot for not really knowing me.
I hope I have answered some questions.
I don't apologize for what I use.
This is a good forum with good folks.
I hope this is a place to where you can enjoy it when you click on the site.

Originally Posted by single shot pop View Post
Apology accepted but not necessary.

In no way Erie am I putting down your equipment, its superlative in every way for the money you spend on it. But I do feel that you are an elitist and like to flaunt your good fortunes in the face of more ordinary less affluent shooters.

I have less than 1K invested in the 308 and built it with the expressed purpose to show people that you don’t have to spend thousands to get a competent extremely accurate long range pistol that can go shoulder to shoulder with most “super-duper big buck$$ specials”.

I would like you to prove, if you’re up to it, to me and the other readers what you can do with an off the shelf plain jane XP or Savage Striker and I’ll put up my plain jane Savage target home built rig for comparison, it would be fun you’d enjoy it!

I’m always up for a challenge and not too proud to admit when I’m wrong if somebody kicks my ass.

Please Erie don’t be offended by what I said because I have the utmost respect for you! Chalk it up to an east coast smart ass home boy!

Kind regards,
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Unread 05-20-2013, 02:54 PM
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Re: Load Development for the 284 Win XP-100

looking good Ernie. one of these years I would love to come out and spend some time on the range with you.
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Unread 05-20-2013, 06:24 PM
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Re: Load Development for the 284 Win XP-100

If you make it out this way, give me a holler.
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Unread 05-20-2013, 06:50 PM
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Re: Load Development for the 284 Win XP-100

I have an xp-100 in .308. Love the thing. Killed 5 deer with it this year. I do have one question for you. Every time I see an xp-100 they have normal rifle scopes one them. Now I can see using that off the bench but how does that work in the field. I would think it would be hard. Just curious. I will say my pistol scope is kind of a pain to find and stay focused. Is it easier with the rifle scope. It would be nice to have more magnification but what about it recoiling in your face. Thanks
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Unread 05-20-2013, 07:12 PM
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Re: Load Development for the 284 Win XP-100

First give this a read. A little dated, but still accurate.
Handgun Hunter Magazine - Rifle Scopes On Specialty Handguns

Holland Radial Muzzle Brake On XP-100 handgun
His Gen 2 brake is even more effective




375 Chey-Tac Improved
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Unread 05-20-2013, 07:49 PM
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Re: Load Development for the 284 Win XP-100

That was a great article thanks for posting it. My hunting situations are mostly out of a deer blind with the forend resting on a narrow window ledge. My xp has a custom barrel with muzzle brake. Do you think a rifle scope on my xp would be steady like that compared to arms extended with the LER scope.
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Unread 05-20-2013, 08:06 PM
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Re: Load Development for the 284 Win XP-100

Brand of SP?
Whose brake?
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