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Old 01-30-2009, 01:01 PM
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I would use a weaver style base and Burris Signature Zee Rings.
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Old 01-30-2009, 04:18 PM
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Thanks Ernie, how much would a barrel from them run? Im looking to keep it as cheap as I can since I will probably only use this a few days a year. Also if I was to just buy a bone stock encore with a 15" barrel with one of the factory chambers what kind of accuracy should I expect? Ive never shot this type of handgun, just revolvers and autoloaders so what kind of shootability should I expect, how hard is it to shoot this type of gun at say 2-300yds? I have no problem shooting a rifle or my muzzleloader at these distances just not sure how easy it would be to steady a small weapon like this in a hunting situation, with like a tree trunk or a backpack as a rest
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Old 01-30-2009, 04:19 PM
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also is a muzzle break something that is needed on something like this or can i get by without it, Im not worried about the recoil, just wonder if a break would make the gun shoot better or if its just for comfort
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Old 01-30-2009, 04:38 PM
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Thanks Ernie, how much would a barrel from them run? Im looking to keep it as cheap as I can since I will probably only use this a few days a year. Also if I was to just buy a bone stock encore with a 15" barrel with one of the factory chambers what kind of accuracy should I expect? Ive never shot this type of handgun, just revolvers and autoloaders so what kind of shootability should I expect, how hard is it to shoot this type of gun at say 2-300yds? I have no problem shooting a rifle or my muzzleloader at these distances just not sure how easy it would be to steady a small weapon like this in a hunting situation, with like a tree trunk or a backpack as a rest
With a factory barrel it could be hit or miss as far as accuracy goes.
If at all possible I encourage guys to "Cry Once" and get something that will do what you want it to.
Just give the folks at MGM a call and ask-I don't have a clue on price. They also make weaver style bases as well.
I typically shoot prone. over a pack 200-300 yards shouldn't be an issue-Takes practice though.

A brake won't make it more accurate, but it just makes it easier to shoot.
Order the barrel now, and if you decide it needs a brake later you can always add one on, when money or desirability is there.
I would encourage whether you brake it or not always wear hearing protection, even when hunting.

260 Remington would also be another good choice too.
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Old 01-31-2009, 10:00 PM
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Ok Ernie you seem to have quite a bit of handgun knowledge heres another question for you. After looking at all these different chambers and bullet speeds and trajectories, are there any good whitetail calibers that will still shoot flat out of a 15" barrel. It sounds as though I can count on loosing 350-400fps by running the ammo out of the 15" barrel and I guess I really dont know how that calculates to 300yd drop. I will more than likely have a 200yd zero give or take probably just sight in whatever I end up getting at 2" high @100yds. I know Im throwing questions at you guys right and left but now im kinda stuck between a rock and a hard place. I found that a 25-06 shoots pretty flat but what kinda performance could I expect on a LARGE deer @ 300yds, will it be plenty or bout at its end or not really adviseable. Id like to try a 7mm-08 but am worried what kind of trajectory I will have with the larger bullet and spped loss from the short barrel, ok ok I know im rambling and Im sorry if my questions are getting old I just dont like the idea of possibly wounding a deer from being under gunned or from a bad hit from poor trajectory. Is there a magic factory round that I could sight in 2" high @100yds and have a 8" or so low POI and still have sufficient energy????? Thanks again guys for all your help its greatly appreciated
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Old 02-01-2009, 12:46 AM
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Are there any good whitetail calibers that will still shoot flat out of a 15" barrel.
I found that a 25-06 shoots pretty flat but what kinda performance could I expect on a LARGE deer @ 300yds, will it be plenty or bout at its end or not really advisable.
Id like to try a 7mm-08 but am worried what kind of trajectory I will have with the larger bullet and speed loss from the short barrel.
I just don't like the idea of possibly wounding a deer from being under gunned or from a bad hit from poor trajectory.
Is there a magic factory round that I could sight in 2" high @100yds and have a 8" or so low POI and still have sufficient energy?
You will lose about 300 fps with handgun lengths.
A 7mm-08 will take you to 300 yards just fine on deer.

The 25-06 in handgun will have the approximate performance equal to what 25 Souper (25-08) or a 257 Roberts would in a rifle--Yes, it will do the job for you.
The 260 Remington, 6.5x55 Swede, and the 6.5-284 will do everything you want in the .264 bore.
270 Win, 7mm-08, 284 Win., 280 Rem, and 280 AI will take care of business in the .277 & .284 diameters.

My old 14 inch 7mm-08 XP had a MV with 140 NBT's of 2540 fps.
At my elev (4600) with a 200 yard zero, I will be 2.3 inches high @ 100 yards, -3.7" @ 250 yards, and -9.2 inches at 300 yards

IF, I make my zero @ 250 yards: 3.8 high @ 100, +2.9 @ 200 yds, 0 @ 250, and -4.8 inches @ 300 yards.

With this load, which was a light load (choose it for its accuracy) , 225 yards would be closer to an ideal Zero. FWIW-Took whitetail, antelope and mulies beyond 300 yards.
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Old 02-01-2009, 12:47 AM
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BTW-you can run the 120 NBT about 200 fps faster.
+2.5 high @ 100 and -6.2 @ 300 yards (120NBT @ 2740fps)

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