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Old 12-13-2007, 05:50 PM
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I am in the process of ordering a pistol from kirby and would like some help deciding what to get. I will be shooting whitetails in wisconsin at 200-500 yards so far i thought i had it nailed down to the 6.5 wsm but i dont want to load my own ammo. Is there a decent place i can buy handloads? I would also like some opinions on what scope i should put on it.
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Old 12-13-2007, 06:02 PM
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I am in the process of ordering a pistol from kirby and would like some help deciding what to get. I will be shooting whitetails in wisconsin at 200-500 yards so far i thought i had it nailed down to the 6.5 wsm but i dont want to load my own ammo. Is there a decent place i can buy handloads? I would also like some opinions on what scope i should put on it.
Dennis,
Have you owned a specialty handgun before?
Have used a long-eye-relief scope before?

Factory cartridges that come to mind:
6.5-284 (unsure if you can get loaded ammo from Black Hills or others)?
284 Win
25-06
264 Win Mag
270 WSM
7WSM
7 Rem Mag
300 WSM

Cartridges based off of the 284 Win case or the WSM's will work better in an XP. While at the same time, Kirby built a 7mm Dakota for me in an XP:eek:
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Old 12-13-2007, 07:00 PM
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i have a tc encore with a leupold 2.5 by 8

i need something more accurate and i would like something that will lay in a shooting bag like a xp 100r
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Old 12-13-2007, 08:31 PM
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First things first if you go with the XP-100r your limited to either keeping the factory stock or getting one from Joel Russo in laminate. The factory stock is nice you just can't go to big with your barrel. As far as the chambering goes If I were to go with a factory round I would go with one of the WSM or SAUM choice's. I know over on Specialty Pistol dodgydoug58 is having Kirby build a 100r in 7mm SAUM with Joel's Stock, I would try and get with him or ask Kirby about it. I know Mark Hampton has done alot with both factory and wildcat round's he's also on this forum maybe he'll chime in. If it were me I'd go wildcat I'm shooting a center grip in 7.21 Lazzeroni it shoot's 168gr Bergers at 2850 and at 300 yd's it shoot's 3 shot's less than an inch, my second centergrip just shipped out yesterday to be customized by Greg Tanel in 300 Dakota so the waiting begin's. I unlike XPHunter shoot at this time pistol scopes the 3x12`Burris I can't decide what I'll do on the Dakota just yet, I would like to try a rifle scope but just hadn't tried it yet. The one thing about Custom gun's whether long or short there's enough decision's sometime's to make you pull your hair out, I just happen to like all that goes into it to get it done.
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Old 12-13-2007, 09:01 PM
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Dennis,

Just my 2 cents worth: If you have any buddies that reload, I'm sure you could talk them into reloading the 6.5 WSM. The XP that Kirby built for me in this cartridge is among my favorite for long range hunting. It is capable of handling the chore you desire---deer hunting from 200--500 yards. I have been using 120 Nosler BTs. Hornady 129 SST would be a good choice also. Haven't had a chance to experiment with the 130 Accubonds but will do so in the near future.

The 284 is another good choice, as Ernie mentioned. However, this round needs to be handloaded to get optimum performance.

If you just had to purchase factory rounds I believe someone is manufacturing 6.5 x 284 ammo. Another 6.5 caliber that is ideal for your purpose. I haven't checked but I'm pretty sure this loaded ammo would be fairly expensive.

I have been shooting a 308 Winchester for many years. Please don't yawn. I know it's garden-variety, plain Jane, and vanila simple but it is an effective deer hunting cartridge. While I have never shot anything at 500 yards with it, I have taken countless whitetail and a bunch of other game in Africa, Asia, Europe, and South America. Only reason I made that last statement was to emphasize a point; it works, and it does so in handgun length barrels. There is also a ton of ammo available for the non-reloader. Admittedly, this may not be your best choice for a 500 yard shot compared to the others mentioned.

Lastly, the Burris 3x-12x would be a good choice for a handgun scope. Good luck and have fun.
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Old 12-13-2007, 09:34 PM
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Alot of great answers and suggestions from everyone. TO get the most out of the SP's handloading would be the best route but there are several cartridges out there that will fill the bill. Mark's suggestion for the 308 is right on the money there is a reason it is used in a lot of competitions, law enforcement and the military. It is super accurate at all ranges and it is available just about everywhere. I bought my first 308 from Mark and the first big game animal I took with it was an Oryx (elk sized critter) in NM. the shot was over 200 yds and dropped in it's tracks. During the next couple of years I used that SP to win several dollars from other shooters at the local range by nailing the steel plate at 500yds. No probelm with steel at that yardage. I liked that gun so well I ordered another one in the 308 caliber. Still have both of them and shoot them quite a bit. With some of the hotter 308 factory rounds out I wouldn't hesitate to take a 400-500 yds shot if the animal was positioned broadside. I have several other calibers that will more than do the job at that yardage and further, but would not trade my 308's for anything else on the market.
As far as scopes I have the 3x12 Burris on all of my guns but will be trying a couple of rifle scopes after the holidays.
Good luck with your purchase and enjoy shooting the SP"s, It is a rush to take game at the extended ranges.
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Old 12-14-2007, 12:06 AM
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Get a good Brake: Holland or Defensive Edge
I do still use LER scopes on SP's but am using 3 rifle scopes also on SP's.
Burris 3-12 LER with BP and turrets.
Dennis,
Do you use reticles or turret twisting for distance shots (both?)?

I really concur with Mark's suggestion about freinds who reload.
Is that a possibility?
From the 308 Win family my two favorites for your situation would be the 260 rem & the 7mm-08. I don't keep up with factory data on anything so I am not sure. These 2 will do it at your max range, but I would put them in the marginal arena. FWIW I wouldn't choose it for a 500 yard deer rig in a SP.
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